Versatile Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I am joining a blues band as bassist And am interested in exploring the various options for bass amplification As I see it the main choices are..... DI straight to PA with a foldback monitor Smallish stage rig...head/cab or combo, say 100 watt or so plus DI to PA for forward throw Med/Large stage rig similar to above, say 300-500+ watt plus DI to PA.... Grateful for advice on pros and cons of 'staying small' on stage for portability...even up to large venue size... Many Thanks... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69tele Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think i depends on your stage volume, I would say a 100 watt combo with DI and foldback is fine (thats what I use) but we dont have a drummer (tracks) and keep our stage volume quite low. If your drummer/guitarist is loud you might need more power. I've played everything from pub gigs, thru weddings to stadium gigs with this rig and no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Smallish stage rig...head/cab or combo, say 100 watt or so plus DI to PA for forward throw Let the PA do all the heavy work (mains and monitors), but the small amp will give you adjustments you can make yourself for tone, volume and monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thanks gents... Helpful and knowledgable as usual I like the idea of 'small on stage' as a tone reference and monitor...all power to the PA... Luggability is important too...as is reasonable cost... I am drooling on Ampeg, Fender, Laney, Marshall for around 300 of the English £'s Also seeing the prettiest 'mini' Bassman 1x10" combo...pricey at £600... Wary of valve bass amps/combos with the vibration factor... Interesting to put a Jazz Fretless and upright solid Double Bass through a few..... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Have you checked out any of the Hartke "KickBack" amps? I haven't played thru one, but hear they are killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaolee Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm an outlier and a crank, but here's what I do. I use vintage Acoustic solid state because I like the sound. I control the sound, not the board. No DI. They are big, heavy and awkward, but they sound great, put out more than enough sound, and have a visual presence which is kinda fun, too. Occasionally, I'll get comments from another vintage person who hasn't seen one for a while, but remembers what they are and how good they sound. Their overall sound rating isn't huge, but they move a massive amount of air, and that's all that really matters. The amp in my avatar picture is a 1968 version. It works very well and sounds great. It doesn't look quite as good up close, but neither do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb nice Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I swear by an old ampeg b50r rocket bass combo. I like it more than any other amp I have owned. Easy to carry, sounds fine and it's always been loud enough (anytime I need to be louder, I DI into the house). I have a stupid rule I made for myself, which says, if I can't carry all my gear down to the car in one trip, I have too much crap. My pedalboard is a briefcase, and sometimes I have a backpack with extra cables and mics and junk for the rest of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I had a very nice Laney 50w 1x15" combo a while back....sold it on and just kept a small practice combo The Hartke looks great...with a propensity for aluminium cones, which would cut through well The Ampegs look like real VFM and some big name users I like the idea of 'one trip' loading and setting up..... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm an outlier and a crank, but here's what I do. I use vintage Acoustic solid state because I like the sound. I control the sound, not the board. No DI. They are big, heavy and awkward, but they sound great, put out more than enough sound, and have a visual presence which is kinda fun, too. Occasionally, I'll get comments from another vintage person who hasn't seen one for a while, but remembers what they are and how good they sound. Their overall sound rating isn't huge, but they move a massive amount of air, and that's all that really matters. The amp in my avatar picture is a 1968 version. It works very well and sounds great. It doesn't look quite as good up close, but neither do I. Yes I was interested to hear how many players relied on their backline sound..... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassilisk Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 In my band we use strictly backline for sound. We're a 5 piece band with 4 singers up front. The singer's control the PA and we achieve a balance as best we can. It's not always perfect (depending on the venue) but we've gotten pretty good at it over the years. I use an Aguilar GS212 with a variety of amps and it gives me more than enough in volume and tone. Bigger than I need for most clubs, but enough to handle the outdoor work during the summer, of which we get a good number. Thankfully, still manageable for me at 70 lbs. Of course, any gig that provides a sound man/system is always welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkolo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 This is what I've been using for years. The amount of power you need really depends on what the guitarist is running and how loud he/she is in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 The Hartke amp is a solid bass amp that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven1844 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would never rely on monitors for your onstage sound. Most PA's I've ever gigged through have monitors set up to handle vocals - not low ended instruments like bass, druns, or even keys. Plus, if the monitor amp goes down - you're screwed. Always use an onstage amp. What you use will depend on what kind of sound your after, and what you are willing to haul. For blues, a 100 Watt amp into a 15" speaker should work fine. If you are just starting out - don't get hung up on things like brand name and tube/solid state. I also wouldn't run just Bass - to DI box - to board. Soundmen like that set up, but it takes away the sound that you like. I personally own several Ampeg rigs, and use everything from a micd up vintage '63 B15, to multiple SVT-3 Pros pushing multiple 2x15 cabs using the 3-Pros DI out to the FOH. One of my favorite sounding Ampegs of all time is the simple 100 watt B-100R Rocket Bass amp. It's been discontinued, but the Ampeg BA115 does just as good of a job. It also has a 4 ohm driver, so you're getting the full 100 watts - and they are a loud 100 watts. That amp doesn't get a lot of respect, but I actually like it better than the new Ampeg PF500/PF115 Portaflexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb nice Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I agree with raven1844 completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobB Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 There are a bunch of great bass amp brands out there. Eden's Nemesis bass amps would be worth a test drive. The vintage Acoustic bass amps are totally amazing, if you are ever lucky enough to find a used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I found the Hartke LH500 head, and the AcousticB410 cab works really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone57 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I like GK gear. you can get a good variety of sounds and they're reliable. I have an older RB400 and a 210 cabinet that's easy to transport and has plenty of volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 SG Std. Heritage Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkolo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Is that an American Deluxe Precision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morkolo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Thanks, it plays great. They really put some nice wood on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsech Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I use a Carvin Micro MB10 when going through the PA. It only weighs 23 lbs and has a full paramemtric EQ and built in compression. It has a DI balanced line out or a direct line out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 My Grabber 3 '70s Tribute with the D'Addario Long Scale Nylon Tapewound Strings. They sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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