gearhead Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I've been buying speakers, cabs etc, to get my sound where i want it. And not just for the bedroom, but for on stage sound. So I was wondering what my fellow forum members are using and what kind of sound you're getting? Speakers are very often overlooked, and you may have the very best head on the market, but if you have junk speakers the sound isn't going to be what it could............. Here's my setup" I'm running a Crate GX1200H 120 watt head with a Crate 4x12" cab (yes, I know......but I only gave $45 for the head and $79 for the cab with the 2 Gold Backs in it) with two Marshall (Celestion) Gold Back series 100 watters and two Celestion G12H-100's (all 8-ohm) wired in series/parallel for a total 8-ohm load. It has a really nice, deep bottom end, no harsh top end. very articulated sound on solos and heavy, full rhythm. A lot like EVH sound. I play rock, hard rock, metal, some blues. Also, if anyone is interested in info on the old Celestion Green backs (G12M, H) here's a link to a thread on the The Gear Page: Celestion "Greenback" ID Thread Has a BUNCH of information on the G12M and G12H series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm a huge Weber fan. Other than the odd, old Jensen, they been my choice for 6 or 7 years now. The cabs that I currently use have a 10" AlNico Blue Pup (for the Vox tones) and a 12A125-O (think Jensen P12Q). Both are 16 ohm, connected to a rotary switch that allows me to play either one, or both at 8ohms. Ted Weber and I talked several times about the best way to accomplish this and the best speakers to use. He even gave me the rotary switches to experiment with. The amps I use are a Vox AC4 clone (old style, not the current AC4) and a Li'l Dawg Mutt (Tweed DeLuxe, with a Champ power section). So, the combinations available, between speaker and amp choices are many. My Ric 12 and Casino like the AC4/10" speaker combo for '60's stuff. The Mutt/12" shines with my Strat and Korina SG. But there are some fantastic tones available through both amps, with both speakers on, too. I've built 2 identical cabs, so that I can set up both amps and jump back and forth. Once the Weber speakers are broken in, they sing. If you like that old Jensen tone, Webers are the next best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both are 16 ohm, connected to a rotary switch that allows me to play either one, or both at 8ohms. Ted Weber and I talked several times about the best way to accomplish this and the best speakers to use. He even gave me the rotary switches to experiment with. That's a cool idea! Haven't really thought about doing a rotary switch, but most cabs I've ever had were loaded with the same speakers. What brand rotary is it? do you have a part number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhippie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm a huge Weber fan. Other than the odd, old Jensen, they been my choice for 6 or 7 years now. The cabs that I currently use have a 10" AlNico Blue Pup (for the Vox tones) and a 12A125-O (think Jensen P12Q). Both are 16 ohm, connected to a rotary switch that allows me to play either one, or both at 8ohms. Ted Weber and I talked several times about the best way to accomplish this and the best speakers to use. He even gave me the rotary switches to experiment with. The amps I use are a Vox AC4 clone (old style, not the current AC4) and a Li'l Dawg Mutt (Tweed DeLuxe, with a Champ power section). So, the combinations available, between speaker and amp choices are many. My Ric 12 and Casino like the AC4/10" speaker combo for '60's stuff. The Mutt/12" shines with my Strat and Korina SG. But there are some fantastic tones available through both amps, with both speakers on, too. I've built 2 identical cabs, so that I can set up both amps and jump back and forth. Once the Weber speakers are broken in, they sing. If you like that old Jensen tone, Webers are the next best thing. Well....that looks very nice!! Even the colors of the Rickenbacker and the Epi match to the walls color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffDriver Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm currently running an Avatar 2x12 cab with the Vintage 30/G12H30 combo that I absolutely love. It's an open back cab that I am running my Tweaker 15H through that creates a monster tone. Combining the mids of the 30 with the bass response and highs of the G12H30 I am able to get a ton of great tones with a lot of different amps. Now, if you are going for a VERY specific tone (ie. Vox through blues) it's not the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's a cool idea! Haven't really thought about doing a rotary switch, but most cabs I've ever had were loaded with the same speakers. What brand rotary is it? do you have a part number? Weber sells them as a impedance selector for their amp kits, so it's kinda being used backwards (!?) The part number is WSW-R2x3. It's a matter of trial and error to figure out which terminal to mount to. Took me a half an hour. Simple really. Ted was amazed that no one had tried it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjael Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Er... Greenbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epi Rocks Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Er... Greenbacks. YEP!!! The way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Celestion Vintage 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilm3 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 A Jensen Special pr8 in my 57 Champ clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewblue Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 running a University 6201-12inch 16 ohm--pre-1960. Alteck Lansing took over the operation in the late 60'to early 70's. Speaker is mint and well broken in. if you click on the picture it will get bigger. http://www.hifilit.com/hifilit/University/1952-3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 My Marshall 1960 B JCM800 cabinet is loaded with Celestion G-12-L-25s,the MG 4-12-A cabinet is loaded with Vietnamese made Celestions.My Vox 4-12 BN cabinet is loaded with 12" Wharfedale speakers designed by Steve Grinrod-the man who helped invent the Celestion Greenback and singlehandedly developed the famous Vox Bulldog speaker.My '66 Traynor Guitar Mate has a Celestion Vintage 30 that sounds absolutely stunning and my circa '66 Leslie model 16 cabinet has a single JBL K-120 that's just an absolute killer with the Leslie engaged.My old '68 Fender Bassman cab has 2-15" speakers but the decals on the back of the cones just say Fender which of course isn't the case as Fender contracted out its speaker construction but judging by the era of the cabinet and the fact that the speakers are most likely original they are quite probably Jenson or Oxford.Some day I'm going to get brave and take out the 3 or 4 doz. screws that are holding the back panel in place and check out the speaker maker by checking out the number code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Just a point of interest for this speaker thread. Speakers are manufacturer/date coded just like potentiometers. Somewhere engraved or stamped on the basket or magnet will be a six or seven digit code which tells you who made it and when. The pretty foil labels with the fancy names can be very misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Celestion Vintage 30's in the Randall Cab, and Jensen 12/70's in the Behringer Combo that I think sound better than the Celestions. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Wow Tweed, I forgot about your amps. Really nice setup you have there. BTW, I like LOUD speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Wow Tweed, I forgot about your amps. Really nice setup you have there. BTW, I like LOUD speakers. Thanks for the compliment. I guess that I'm getting old. Loud isn't doing it for me anymore. Both the amps in the picture would be considered low-watt, the Mutt being 12w and the Acey4 being 5w/2w. If I want to get louder, I'll break out the Supro 88t, a stunning 35 watts! Best amp ever, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I use round speakers........... .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 OK.......... own a variety of amps and cabs....And there's a variety of speakers in them....Weber speakers get very high marks.... Certain Celestions get high marks......On my list to get; Some ALNICO 12" Jensens, new; They're great for recording............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'll third the Weber speakers. I have a 10F15T, 8F150, have had the Signature 10's and a 12F150. All were great for what they are. I'll also cast a vote for the Altec 417. Hard to find and expensive, but very nice and super efficient. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabba2203 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Carvin 4x12 Bottom: Loaded with 100watt Carvin British series (made by Eminence) Mesa Vertical 2x12: Loaded with 200watt EV EVM12L Classics Mesa Half-Back 4x12: Open Top Loaded with 90watt Black Shadows (made by Celestion)/ Closed Bottom Loaded with 50 watt Black Shadows (Made by Eminence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Carvin 4x12 Bottom: Loaded with 100watt Carvin British series (made by Eminence) Mesa Vertical 2x12: Loaded with 200watt EV EVM12L Classics Mesa Half-Back 4x12: Open Top Loaded with 90watt Black Shadows (made by Celestion)/ Closed Bottom Loaded with 50 watt Black Shadows (Made by Eminence) So how's those Carvin speakers? I've heard good and not so good about them. And those EV's are bad-*ss! Have a friend that has a Carvin 100 watt combo with 2 of those and man does it sound good! And I want to say thanks to everyone that has posted here! Gives me more to think about (not sure if that's good.....LOL) and try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santanu Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I've a very small setup. And this is my budget amp. Though it's pretty good, it can run even Marshall or Fender amp. in this budget range! It's superb! It's Vox Pathfinder 10 with a vox Bulldog 6.5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanatic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 i don't have cabs....1-12 combos. But in those and in the cabs i had in the past i have use EV12L' for the last 20 years at least. Nothing else sounds/reacts/feels like them and nothing else works for me. but i am not a rock player. I'm an all around player that mainly plays rock but also blues, soft rock, country, etc. So therefore i'm not into that pumping 412 cab sound. I like that but i consider it more of a specialty sound than an all around sound. A 1-12 combo to me sounds all around, and an EV works best there because it doesn't require a sealed cab to be efficient. Anyway, thats just me, but you asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 i don't have cabs....1-12 combos. But in those and in the cabs i had in the past i have use EV12L' for the last 20 years at least. Nothing else sounds/reacts/feels like them and nothing else works for me. but i am not a rock player. I'm an all around player that mainly plays rock but also blues, soft rock, country, etc. So therefore i'm not into that pumping 412 cab sound. I like that but i consider it more of a specialty sound than an all around sound. A 1-12 combo to me sounds all around, and an EV works best there because it doesn't require a sealed cab to be efficient. Anyway, thats just me, but you asked Yeah...........I used EVs for years......I didn't know they still were in business..........They are....Hmmm......... I prefer sealed cabs, but, EVs are great in those as well................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydots Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It depends on which amp I am using. In the Hot Rod DeVille I use 4 10" Eminence Rajun' Cajuns. In my old Bandmaster, I use 2 12" Celestion Red Label British Invasion GM-12's. I have to agree that Weber makes a great speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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