JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 guys I came across one of these (L00) . if you are interested please let me know $2600 is the asking price. if no one is interested I will buy it for myself . I will leave no link unless someone is interested JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotomsdos Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 guys I came across one of these (L00) . if you are interested please let me know $2600 is the asking price. if no one is interested I will buy it for myself . I will leave no link unless someone is interested JC Hi, JuanCarlosVejar What does "Archetype" actually mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd707 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 guys I came across one of these (L00) . if you are interested please let me know $2600 is the asking price. if no one is interested I will buy it for myself . I will leave no link unless someone is interested JC I've been looking for an L00 and I just missed a chance to buy one of the Luthiers' Choice by Ren. I've sent you an email ... I'd like to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 12 or 14 fret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 12 or 14 fret? PM I'm not sure it's a 1932 replica . there is no complete photos of the guitar so I cannot count if it's 12 or 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 PM I'm not sure it's a 1932 replica . there is no complete photos of the guitar so I cannot count if it's 12 or 14 It's 14 fret to the body. It's also ebony finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hi, JuanCarlosVejar What does "Archetype" actually mean ? "Archetype" and "prototype" have much the same meaning. Generally speaking, the first model of a type of guitar, for example, would be the "prototype". For linguists, there can be subtle differences. A prototype might be seen as the first of a model, while an archetype might be seen as the perfected example of the model. It's a subtle linguistic difference that may not have any real meaning with regard to this particular guitar. From reading the nominal specifications, it sounds more as if it is intended as the perfected example, rather than faithful to the original version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 thanks for helping me out Nick :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 thanks for helping me out Nick :D No problem JC. J45 Nick at his pedantic best...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 PM I'm not sure it's a 1932 replica . there is no complete photos of the guitar so I cannot count if it's 12 or 14 Cheers, if you find out keep me posted, I'd only be looking for a 14 fretter, even though I'm not looking... if you know what I mean..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Cheers, if you find out keep me posted, I'd only be looking for a 14 fretter, even though I'm not looking... if you know what I mean..... PM, it's 14-fret to the body, ebony finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Can you message me a link to see this guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not sure why the mystery around the link. The seller has posted this guitar on multiple other forums and craigslist. 2008 Gibson Archetype 1932 L-00 By the way, I A/B'ed one of these against a Legend L-00 a while back. The Archetype was a better sounding guitar, among those two specific examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not sure why the mystery around the link. The seller has posted this guitar on multiple other forums and craigslist. 2008 Gibson Archetype 1932 L-00 By the way, I A/B'ed one of these against a Legend L-00 a while back. The Archetype was a better sounding guitar, among those two specific examples. GotThe Silver thanks . lol I didn't want to post a link because I was thinking of keeping it for myself but not anymore other things have come up and I hope someone buys it . JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayfingers Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hi, JuanCarlosVejar What does "Archetype" actually mean ? FWIW, the certificate for my 12 fret Nick Lucas Master Archetype Custom has a definition of archetype on it: "Ar-che-type" - 1. An original model or type after which other similar things are patterned. 2. An ideal example of a type: quintessence I don't think they've made any more of these, so I'm picking number 2, but then again, I haven't seen any originals that it might be patterned after either, with 12 frets and the squarer lower bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Since the prototype would be the original one which became the pattern for all that followed, it's hard to see a modern guitar as the "prototype" for a guitar that has been around for 80 years. "Archetype" is the better term in this case. Pedantry, pedantry, pedantry...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If Ren makes an "archetype" guitar that is a dud, would it be an "archetypo"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If Ren makes an "archetype" guitar that is a dud, would it be an "archetypo"? More likely a proto-spasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If Ren makes an "archetype" guitar that is a dud, would it be an "archetypo"? If he makes an L5, it must be an archetope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If he makes an L5, it must be an archetope. I give, I give..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not sure why the mystery around the link. The seller has posted this guitar on multiple other forums and craigslist. 2008 Gibson Archetype 1932 L-00 By the way, I A/B'ed one of these against a Legend L-00 a while back. The Archetype was a better sounding guitar, among those two specific examples. Tough choice between those two guitars. Old/New from Ren/Old/New from Ren etc etc. BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Tough choice between those two guitars. Old/New from Ren/Old/New from Ren etc etc. BluesKing777. I am sure the new one from Ren is a great guitar, but I already have an old one, so I am set. The old one this seller has is already sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotomsdos Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 "Archetype" and "prototype" have much the same meaning. Generally speaking, the first model of a type of guitar, for example, would be the "prototype". For linguists, there can be subtle differences. A prototype might be seen as the first of a model, while an archetype might be seen as the perfected example of the model. It's a subtle linguistic difference that may not have any real meaning with regard to this particular guitar. From reading the nominal specifications, it sounds more as if it is intended as the perfected example, rather than faithful to the original version. Thank you j45nick for your accounting for it, but I literally understand "Archetype". as a rule, when making reissue guitars, builders basically build reissues according to a VINTAGE guitar instead of a MODERN guitar (the one just built nowadays). This is what I don't understand with Juan's "Archetype" L-00 (modern). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thank you j45nick for your accounting for it, but I literally understand "Archetype". as a rule, when making reissue guitars, builders basically build reissues according to a VINTAGE guitar instead of a MODERN guitar (the one just built nowadays). This is what I don't understand with Juan's "Archetype" L-00 (modern). I wouldn't read too much into it. It seems that more often than not, Gibson selects characteristics from several similar guitars in making "vintage reproductions". I don't see anything wrong with that, provided it isn't represented as an exact copy of a specific guitar. One of the few fairly exact copies I can remember was Clapton's "Crossroads" ES 335, which was reproduced right down to the dings on the body and the Hare Krishna sticker on the back of the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotomsdos Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 One of the few fairly exact copies I can remember was Clapton's "Crossroads" ES 335, which was reproduced right down to the dings on the body...,,,, Copy the original dings on the body ???!!! Really ? expecting the input from someone else .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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