Guth Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've never heard a new acoustic come off the shelf that sounded as good as a 40 or 50 yr old version of the same model. I'm going to guess that you haven't played very many different guitars over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm going to guess that you haven't played very many different guitars over the years. You probably will not find any modern Gibson J-45 that sounds the same as his 1960. Those had a very different top bracing than what you find in the Bozeman J-45s. As far as I know, Gibson does not make any guitars today with that post-1955 style of bracing. I am actually a big fan of the non-scallop top bracing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 i don't think there's been a ford as nice as a 60's mustang . i wonder why everyone doesn't drive one of those ?? Whoa Dude! I'm hoping that this is sarcasm? I must disagree - while a 60s 'stang would certainly have the classic thing going for it - there is no comparison to what is available now. I spent months looking at getting a new (American) car or truck. Three months ago I purchased a 2011 Ford Taurus SHO. It is like the difference between a stealth fighter and a P51 Mustang: twin turbos, 365hp, AWD, adjustable suspension, heated/cooled leather seats, I forget how many speakers with the Sony sound system. There is no way a mechanical carburetor can compete with todays electronic fuel injection. My belief is that modern guitars are as superior to ones built 70 years ago - folks like Ren have spent their lives improving on what was 'classic' to us back then. And, you probably have, at least with Gibson's hand made guitars - 98% dependability, compared to less than 50% on a guitar that may have been owned by a hippy and kept in a car trunk when not used as a canoe paddle. I think even BBG Dylan would prefer a new Gibson ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guth Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 You probably will not find any modern Gibson J-45 that sounds the same as his 1960. Those had a very different top bracing than what you find in the Bozeman J-45s. As far as I know, Gibson does not make any guitars today with that post-1955 style of bracing. I am actually a big fan of the non-scallop top bracing. I actually had a chance to compare mine side by side with a mid/late 50's model that sounded fantastic. You would have a hard time telling the two apart if blindfolded. My luthier was the one who pointed it out to me when I had mine in for a setup. He had become quite fascinated with my J-45 and happened to have the 50's model in for an inspection and curiosity got the better of him. I know that it makes little sense given the vast differences in construction, age, etc.. But that is kind of my point - you never really know until you play the guitars. I've played plenty of vintage instruments that sounded very disappointing to me. I've also played a number of newer guitars that sound spectacular. I realize the odds favor vintage guitars overall, but one would be foolish to totally dismiss either category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Whoa Dude! I'm hoping that this is sarcasm? I must disagree - while a 60s 'stang would certainly have the classic thing going for it - there is no comparison to what is available now. I spent months looking at getting a new (American) car or truck. Three months ago I purchased a 2011 Ford Taurus SHO. It is like the difference between a stealth fighter and a P51 Mustang: twin turbos, 365hp, AWD, adjustable suspension, heated/cooled leather seats, I forget how many speakers with the Sony sound system. There is no way a mechanical carburetor can compete with todays electronic fuel injection. My belief is that modern guitars are as superior to ones built 70 years ago - folks like Ren have spent their lives improving on what was 'classic' to us back then. And, you probably have, at least with Gibson's hand made guitars - 98% dependability, compared to less than 50% on a guitar that may have been owned by a hippy and kept in a car trunk when not used as a canoe paddle. I think even BBG Dylan would prefer a new Gibson ! was 99% sarcasm :-) , i certainly never set out to argue with anyone on here and i love the differences . but when people wonder why anyone would buy a new guitar when old ones are available just sounds elitist to me . 'your guitar's not as good as mine is . nanana nana' . its a crazy statement to make ... as is mine about mustangs ,, no doubting the beauty of them but if someone prefers a prius , let them have one . everyone should have ta guitar like mine ... i mean thats the sort of statement that got nazi germany started :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 was 99% sarcasm :-) , i certainly never set out to argue with anyone on here and i love the differences . but when people wonder why anyone would buy a new guitar when old ones are available just sounds elitist to me . 'your guitar's not as good as mine is . nanana nana' . its a crazy statement to make ... as is mine about mustangs ,, no doubting the beauty of them but if someone prefers a prius , let them have one . everyone should have ta guitar like mine ... i mean thats the sort of statement that got nazi germany started :-D BBG, I agree - 1000%. I can't even decide between /amongst my guitars which is "best". So how can I say any one of them is better than another I've not seen let alone played. People think I'm crazy because I wear a Chevy ball cap and drive a Ford. It's simple - I like the hat! It fits better than the other dozen I have and feels better and looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Amen!!!! And get this....if we are lucky enough to live a long, long life.....then our new guitars will become "vintage" by default!!!!! I'm pretty sure a lot of new Gibsons will get even better with age and playing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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