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Hey guys - Love my Dot - I have had it for a couple of years now, but I've finally decided that the stock pickups just aren't cutting it for me anymore - just too muddy.. This question has probably been asked a million times, but what do you guys with Dots replace the stock pups with? I know tone is subjective, but what replacements seem to be the main contenders?.. Specifically, I'm wondering about GFS, but will consider others as well.. Anybody gone with GFS, and if so, what kind of GFS pups do you like in your Dots? Thanks

 

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GFS are very popular pickups..........I'd put in Gibby 57s in that Dot.....( Around $100.00 each at AmplifiedParts )........

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From past posts, you want to put 57 classic style pups in a 335 geetar. The closest gfs has would be the 59 humbuckers. I got a pair and put in an epi les paul and they sounded great. If you do not mind spending a little more Stewmac.com has their version of PAF pups called golden age parson street humbuckers. I got a pair of the alnico 2's in my g400 and WOW!!!! Not sure if Gfs' alnico 2 would be as good due to not having any experience with them. I have used a lot of gfs stuff and find it to be very good for the price. Hopefully someone can give you feedback on the pups they haves used for their dot or 335 guitars.

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GFS are very popular pickups..........I'd put in Gibby 57s in that Dot.....( Around $100.00 each at AmplifiedParts )........

 

 

I know the Gibbies would be nice, but I'm trying to keep the price kind of reasonable - I only paid $250 for the Dot new (Sam Ash Black Friday sale a couple of years ago), so that's why I was leaning toward the GFS pickups, or something similar, if the tone is there..

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From past posts, you want to put 57 classic style pups in a 335 geetar. The closest gfs has would be the 59 humbuckers. I got a pair and put in an epi les paul and they sounded great. If you do not mind spending a little more Stewmac.com has their version of PAF pups called golden age parson street humbuckers. I got a pair of the alnico 2's in my g400 and WOW!!!! Not sure if Gfs' alnico 2 would be as good due to not having any experience with them. I have used a lot of gfs stuff and find it to be very good for the price. Hopefully someone can give you feedback on the pups they haves used for their dot or 335 guitars.

 

 

The GFS 59 humbuckers sound like they might be the ticket.. I have bought a few pedals, accessories, etc. from GFS and find their stuff to be pretty good - I haven't bought any pickups from them, but their pickups generally do get good reviews.

 

Thanks, I'll check GFS' site, and read up on the 59 humbuckers - and I'll also check on the Stew-Macs..

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It depends on how much you like your DOT. 57 Classics will transform it to a guitar that you will not soon relinquish. They are very much worth the investment.

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It depends on how much you like your DOT. 57 Classics will transform it to a guitar that you will not soon relinquish. They are very much worth the investment.

 

Some time back, I convinced a member to put 57s in his 335.....He was stunned at the result.....And "AmplifiedParts" has the best prices I've ever found.............

 

Your 335 is a stunner, by the way...........Just another thought towards the 57s.........

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I put GFS Vintage 59s in my Dot and Sherry and have no complaints. They were a huge improvement. When you do put in mew pups, I suggest putting in new pots, jack, caps, wiring and a switch. It's a lot of work, to put th epups in, so you might as well go all the way an do the rest. If you do, don't get you pots from GFS, they aren't an improvement.

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Another vote for the Seymour Duncan 59s. Great pickups. And as the previous poster suggested, if you're going to the trouble of replacing your pickups, it's worth doing the rest of the electronics at the same time.

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I put Gibson Classic 57/57+ in my Sheraton II last month and frankly it was worth the investment in my case.

Like already suggested, I would also advice to change the full electronic inside, I did and I get the better out of that cheap axe.

Electronics are the weakest thing in Epi and most asians guitars.

Doing an electronic change on a semi (pickups, pots, switches and all) is not the easiest thing, so better doing it only once [biggrin]

I suggest getting something like the VESK-1 wiring kit from BCS since it is the cheapest and easiest way to get quality parts at a reasonable labor rate.

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Don't know what your budget is, but you could also go for used pickups. I just bought a set of used '57 Classics on eBay for $115 for my ES-355 and they sound great. For a 335 try to get pickups that have at least 12" of lead, although you can extend a lead with some small diameter shielded cable if necessary.

 

Very nice looking Dot BTW!

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What amp ya got?

 

 

I've got a few amps, but my main gigging/jamming amp is a Hot Rod Deluxe. I've also got a '69 Champ, and a Marshall Class 5 - those are the amps I play the most.

 

I'm also in the market for a DRRI, and will most probably get one fairly soon. I need something in the middle of the HRDx and the Champ, and also I love the clean sounds of the DRRI.

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Some time back, I convinced a member to put 57s in his 335.....He was stunned at the result.....And "AmplifiedParts" has the best prices I've ever found.............

 

Your 335 is a stunner, by the way...........Just another thought towards the 57s.........

 

 

Thanks, Damian. I will definitely take a look then at the 57's and AmplifiedParts..

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I put GFS Vintage 59s in my Dot and Sherry and have no complaints. They were a huge improvement. When you do put in mew pups, I suggest putting in new pots, jack, caps, wiring and a switch. It's a lot of work, to put th epups in, so you might as well go all the way an do the rest. If you do, don't get you pots from GFS, they aren't an improvement.

 

 

Glad to hear you are satisfied with the GFS Vintage 59's. I looked at them on their site last night. Yes, I had forgotten that new wiring, etc. should also be a consideration...

 

I won't be doing the job myself. My guitar tech told me he charges $35 a pup install on a 335-type guitar, so I need to ask him about the charge for putting in new wiring, etc. also, if I go that route.

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Another vote for the Seymour Duncan 59s. Great pickups. And as the previous poster suggested, if you're going to the trouble of replacing your pickups, it's worth doing the rest of the electronics at the same time.

 

 

Yep, you guys have me thinking about that now...

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I put Gibson Classic 57/57+ in my Sheraton II last month and frankly it was worth the investment in my case.

Like already suggested, I would also advice to change the full electronic inside, I did and I get the better out of that cheap axe.

Electronics are the weakest thing in Epi and most asians guitars.

Doing an electronic change on a semi (pickups, pots, switches and all) is not the easiest thing, so better doing it only once [biggrin]

I suggest getting something like the VESK-1 wiring kit from BCS since it is the cheapest and easiest way to get quality parts at a reasonable labor rate.

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VESK-1

 

 

Hey, thanks for the tip on the VESK-1 wiring kit..

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Don't know what your budget is, but you could also go for used pickups. I just bought a set of used '57 Classics on eBay for $115 for my ES-355 and they sound great. For a 335 try to get pickups that have at least 12" of lead, although you can extend a lead with some small diameter shielded cable if necessary.

 

Very nice looking Dot BTW!

 

It depends on how much you like your DOT. 57 Classics will transform it to a guitar that you will not soon relinquish. They are very much worth the investment.

 

 

That is a great idea - checking for used '57 Classics on eBay.. Man, you got a great deal there on yours - I'll start checking the Bay and see what's out there.. (Thanks for the tip on the 12" of lead -)

 

I only paid $250 for this Dot brand new (Sam Ash Black Friday sale a couple years ago, and they let me use a coupon to boot), but it looks like I'm probably going to be putting more money in improvements in the guitar than I paid for it! ha

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If you have other guitars and none of them have P90s, I highly recommend GFS Mean 90s. I've had them in my Dot for a few years, having replaced the stock humbuckers less than a year after I got the guitar. And I've had the opportunity to compare them against other P90 guitars through the same amp - they sounded as good as any, better than most. They really give a noticeably different character to the guitar, whereas IMHO different model humbuckers aren't as different from one another as forums and advertisers would lead us to believe. Since you alluded to being budget-minded, GFS would appear to be a good way to go. Also, I did eventually replace the guts in my Dot with CTS, Switchcraft and new wiring. That cured the scratchy pot and the dodgy switch, but did absolutely nothing sound-wise (as I expected). Bottom line is that I have an upgraded and unique sounding Dot with a total aftermarket outlay of about $120 (I did my own labor). And I've continued to be satisfied with the Mean 90s.

 

 

Well, I don't have to go cheap, but I just thought if I can get away with GFS pups in this Dot, why not?.. Yes, I have heard good things about the Mean 90's. They seem to get consistently good reviews. I do have one P90-equipped guitar (a Dillion PRS clone), and I love the sound of the soapbar P90's in it.

 

But yeah, the Mean 90's are certainly something to consider for the Dot, also..

 

I've got to do some research now on all the pickup choices I've got!...

 

 

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I have had Vintage 59s in my Dot Deluxe for a couple of years. They are certainly better than the stock pickups but I am now considering replacing them. I have been looking through websites for used 57s. The problem I have is that all the hardwear is gold (I have a gold Bigsby mounted to a vibramate) and it is hard to come by used 57s in gold. I recently bought a casino and really love the P-90s in it and am also thinking of throwing in a pair of mean 90s to see if I like it better. I'm concerned it will sound like my casino w/o the feedback but that might be a good thing. Oh, I also play through a hot rod deluxe. I also strongly recommend replaing the wiring, pots, switch, and caps. I had the mean 90s in my Les Paul and did not like them. I was using the stock wiring and after I replaced the mean 90s I also replaced the wiring in both the Dot and Les Paul. It does really make a difference and is the reason I am considering another run with the mean 90s.

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Don't know what your budget is, but you could also go for used pickups. I just bought a set of used '57 Classics on eBay for $115 for my ES-355 and they sound great. For a 335 try to get pickups that have at least 12" of lead, although you can extend a lead with some small diameter shielded cable if necessary.

 

Very nice looking Dot BTW!

 

+1. Used PU's online is the way to go; that's how I get most of mine. I have an assortment of PAF sets:

 

Duncan: Seth, Antiquity, PG, '59, A2P

Gibson: BB, '57, 490

DiMarzio: Virtual PAF

Fralin: PAF

 

To me, Duncan's are as good or better than anyone else's, and Seth's are their pinnacle. '59's are great too. I think the best Gibsons by far are BB's, especially the older unpotted ones. Gibson '57's in the neck slot can be dark and muffled in some guitars (not an uncommon complaint), I put a brighter magnet (A5) in mine.

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