SRV

[myspace.com/jessenoah]

this is my opinion, and im expecting to get flamed

 

SVR is the most over-rated, lamest chops, guitarist ive ever herd, everyone and their mother always gets off to him!

granted he has some killer tone, but i rather listen to dragon force, mega cartoony-gay shredding, or something then SRV, he sqeezes on his guitar and it gives me a headache to watch him and hear him play

 

 

now up here in sacramento, everyone is a Stevie-ray wanna-be, so perhaps that is why i have grown tired of him, because i remeber when i was little, and how i though SRV was soo cool because he could sqeeze one more note into a run.

 

i hear it all the time, SRV, all this soul and emotion and that is all good and fine, but when it comes to the playing, SRV is just another guitarist, he has good tone yes, but his playing, his songs, hs scales, very boring, repetitive, and just not as good as people make him out to be.

 

 

 

 

disclaimer- im the kinda person who takes musicial inspiration from ANYTHING, for me to not like something, its not because i am in a mood or something, it must be really bad or else i would take something, but srv and his strat neck Pup playing the same 3 chords every time is by far the most annoyng thing i have ever herd

[Ian Martin]

+1, but most of the "famous" guitarists are overrated and hyped to a certain degree.

 

In Stevie's case, he was martyred for his craft so to speak.

 

Can you imagine just how much popular Slash would be if he suddenly OD'd and stayed dead?

 

At any rate, I'd rather listen to SRV than the dozens of kids at Guitar Center..and the millions of guys on YouTube trying to be SRV.

[SRV-Zeppelin]

In my opinion, if you hate SRV, that's fine. It's your opinion and you're entitled to it. If you hate me, that's a different matter. I'm not overly upset... just disappointed.

 

I agree that SRV is one of the most emulated guitarists of all time (perhaps next to Jimmy Page) and did not write a lot of his own stuff (lots of Hendrix covers, etc.) I also acknowledge the fact that yes, for most of his songs, he used the same chord progression written in Eb major. However, that does not mean he was not a great guitarist. SRV had a musical style that may have been similar to other blues artists, but he had a clear genre of his own and worked hard to perfect it. Sure, his licks may be played by almost every amateur guitarist out there... but that just proves how popular his legacy is because of his career. Is SRV one of the greatest guitarists of all time? Maybe not. But you can't deny that he had a lot of talent.

[myspace.com/jessenoah]

In my opinion' date=' if you hate SRV, that's fine. It's your opinion and you're entitled to it. If you hate me, that's a different matter.[/quote']

i dont hate YOU

what gave you that ida

 

 

???

 

 

peace and love

and SRV is still annoying

[SRV-Zeppelin]

I know you don't hate me. I was just using an example to point out the fact that I don't take offense to anyone's opinions unless they unjustly criticize me. And SRV is annoying for you because you can't walk into a music store without hearing people play his stuff. It's like listening to the same song on your iPod 30 times in a row, no matter how good the song is, you're going to hate it in the end. SRV himself is not annoying. It's just his over-played music that gets you riled up.

[Thundergod]

+1' date=' but most of the "famous" guitarists are overrated and hyped to a certain degree.

 

In Stevie's case, he was martyred for his craft so to speak.

 

Can you imagine just how much popular Slash would be if he suddenly OD'd and [i']stayed[/i] dead?

 

At any rate, I'd rather listen to SRV than the dozens of kids at Guitar Center..and the millions of guys on YouTube trying to be SRV.

 

 

+10'000.000

[:oilpit:]

Before I say what I really want to say, I haven't heard enough SRV to have a strong opinion.

 

What I really want to say is,

 

I wish that Slash had died, I wish that my last memory of his was use your illusion.

The only reason I'm glad he is alive now is it makes a GnR reuinion possible.

However, I know that won't happen AND I have to hear Velvet Revolver, which is utter garbage.

He would be SO cool if he was dead.

[deepblue]

I dont want to start a war. We here at the forum are free to express our opinions without prejudice.

I respect what you gentleman have said.

 

Anyone can learn the blues. The chord progressions, scales etc.

But few can master it.

The blues is about a feeling. A vibe. The good man feelin bad scenario always comes to my mind.

Having said that, Stevie Ray Vaughan was/is the master. Watch his dvd's "Live at the El mocambo"

He is there in the room playing, but his mind and soul are in the cosmos. He can zone better then anyone I have ever seen. His eyes closed, mouth open he just lets it loose. Such sweet powerful tone, and hes never lost...ever.

Guys like Clapton, Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, BB King...all these blues giants were in awe of Stevie. Clapton aka GOD admitted that he was no near as good as SRV when it came to his blues chops.

 

Maybe you guys are young. I dont know, but I find you have a better appreciation for guys like Stevie etc when you get a little older.

 

We miss you Stevie.

[RudyH]

I don't know much about chops, but I do have a couple of Vaughan's albums. They are excellent. I wish I could play as well as he did.

 

My take on the issue is that there are a lot of skilled guitarists that don't know how to put on a good show. Any discussion of Vaughan's skill as a guitarist aside, the guy really knew how to put on a good show and make good records. That's why he's a legendary figure.

[deepblue]

Stevie was a guy you needed to see live to truely appreciate.

I also hear he was a great person. Very humble and down to earth.

[:oilpit:]

admitted that he was no near as good as SRV when it came to his blues chops.

 

Clapton thinks everyone is better than him, he is WAY too humble.

That being said I don't know who is better, like I said, haven't heard enough Stevie

[ChanMan]

+1 to everything DeepBlue said. SRV was blues incarnate...

[djroge1]

Wow, I'm amazed that someone would even bring up a topic like this.

 

I wonder what would have happened if Robert Johnson only played 3 chords and pentatonic scales? I wonder how people would react if Clapton, or any of the Kings (Albert, BB come to mind) only had a handful of simple chords when they played the blues?

 

Hmmm come to think of it, many good and famous rock songs are based on a simple I-IV-V progression - especially a few early Zep tunes.

 

When you write things like this, you are really putting down rocks heritage and not just SRV. His intent was to help keep the blues alive for younger generations and he did.

 

I think it was Warren Haynes who said it best and I'm paraphrasing - SRV single handedly kept guitar alive during the electronic keyboard infested music of the 80's.

 

I wonder how others (myself included) would sound and feel if the smallest gauage string we used were 13's... Stevie only used them when his fingers were hurting - other times he used 14's or even 16's on the high E string. This is also a key ingredient to his tone and yes he did tune down a 1/2 step, but I doubt anyone here uses 13's night after night.

[myspace.com/jessenoah]

Hmmm come to think of it' date=' many good and famous rock songs are based on a simple I-IV-V progression - especially a few early Zep tunes. [/quote']

im not bashing the 1-4-5, but bands like zep, cream, zz top, lots of bands use the 1-4-5, but the difference is how zep for example could really shake up the timings, keeping the choard progressions the same, but who,how, and when the chords where played added depth, and variety to the songs

 

When you write things like this' date=' you are really putting down rocks heritage and not just SRV. His intent was to help keep the blues alive for younger generations and he did.

[/quote']

 

im not bashing SRV, just his music

I think it was Warren Haynes who said it best and I'm paraphrasing - SRV single handedly kept guitar alive during the electronic keyboard infested music of the 80's.

im pretty sure that slash' date=' the blues revival of the 80s, hair metal, thrash, would have all played an important part in devolpment on modern music

I wonder how others (myself included) would sound and feel if the smallest gauage string we used were 13's... Stevie only used them when his fingers were hurting - other times he used 14's or even 16's on the high E string. This is also a key ingredient to his tone and yes he did tune down a 1/2 step, but I doubt anyone here uses 13's night after night.

 

if it worked for him, then good for him, jimmy page played a les paul every night for 11 years or so, im sure he hurt too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good thread, i am enjoying your guy's thoughts on it

[ChanMan]

Wow' date=' I'm amazed that someone would even bring up a topic like this.

 

I wonder what would have happened if Robert Johnson only played 3 chords and pentatonic scales? I wonder how people would react if Clapton, or any of the Kings (Albert, BB come to mind) only had a handful of simple chords when they played the blues?

 

Hmmm come to think of it, many good and famous rock songs are based on a simple I-IV-V progression - especially a few early Zep tunes.

 

When you write things like this, you are really putting down rocks heritage and not just SRV. His intent was to help keep the blues alive for younger generations and he did.

 

I think it was Warren Haynes who said it best and I'm paraphrasing - SRV single handedly kept guitar alive during the electronic keyboard infested music of the 80's.

[/quote']

 

 

It's ok man. It's just Jesse....

Every so often he feels the need to post a "x" guitarist is the lamest ever thread.

I think the last one I saw said Jimi Hendrix was the most over rated guitarist ever. It's a form of entertainment. I try to just ignore the inane dialogue and focus on the actual issue.

 

 

Well, or just ignore the thread entirely....

[djroge1]

 

 

It's ok man. It's just Jesse....

Every so often he feels the need to post a "x" guitarist is the lamest ever thread.

I think the last one I saw said Jimi Hendrix was the most over rated guitarist ever. It's a form of entertainment. I try to just ignore the inane dialogue and focus on the actual issue.

 

 

Well' date=' or just ignore the thread entirely....[/quote']

 

Hey thanks for helping understand the mindless ramblings.... I guess some people can't help but show their... oh never mind. Thanks

[:oilpit:]

Jimi Hendrix was the most over rated guitarist ever.

That's a fact.

 

Was he innovative? yes, was he unparalelled in cool factor? yes, did he shake things up? yes, was he unbelievably talented? absolutely.

But that doesn't mean that every "top (insert number here) gutiarist list" has to have him at the top.

[djroge1]

That's a fact.

 

Was he innovative? yes' date=' was he unparalelled in cool factor? yes, did he shake things up? yes, was he unbelievably talented? absolutely.

But that doesn't mean that every "top (insert number here) gutiarist list" has to have him at the top.

[/quote']

 

Yes it does mean that - what else do you need?

 

Innovative, unparallelled cool, shake things up, talented - It's sort of a no-brianer that yes he HAS to be at the top of every list and I'm not even a huge Jimi fan, but I think he deserves to be at the top.

[jeff_farkas]

I'm sorry but to say that SRV is over rated is a joke.

 

 

Jeff

[ChanMan]

That's a fact.

 

 

Documentation? References? Or just talking out your a$$?

[jeff_farkas]

That's a fact.

 

Was he innovative? yes' date=' was he unparalelled in cool factor? yes, did he shake things up? yes, was he unbelievably talented? absolutely.

But that doesn't mean that every "top (insert number here) gutiarist list" has to have him at the top.

[/quote']

 

That's an opinion not a fact.

 

Jeff.

[:oilpit:]

I thought I was gonna get a responce like this...

 

Yes I am just talking out my a$S

But, Page, Clapton, Van Halen, Gibbons, all way better than Jimi

 

Time to go to my flame-resistant planet

[:oilpit:]

 

That's an opinion not a fact.

 

Jeff.

 

You are correct, sorry.

But I still think he's over rated

[myspace.com/jessenoah]

jimi is over-rated, but unlike srv, jimi is cool, has cool songs, and has cool chops, where jimi was innovative, and cool, he wasnt that talented, but you dont need talent you need cool, and creativity

 

 

 

 

 

my opinion on jimi is completly different from my opinion on srv

[rybass]

Can we get a mod to change the thread to the show your age thread? Or maybe the stereotypical lead guitarist attitude/ better than the heritage that got me here thread??

 

I respect opinion but when you start throwing the word fact around you're too immature to know better.

 

Ever listened/ watched Page play live? He sucks. Mostly b/c he was jacked or drunk but he had crappy chops horrible phrasing and bad technique. And I may be wrong but didn't JPJ write most of the progressive pieces that weren't stolen from an old blues player? BUT I love Page and I don't believe he is/was over rated. He is one of many reason we do what we do. Same as Jimi and SRV. Can you even begin to imagine if they didn't do what they did?

 

Jesse you have the right to post what you want but holy crap you love drama!