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surfpup

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srv just runs off licks' date=' go to a bar, or a blues jam, there are lots of people pulling off srv, near chop for chop

 

So I think this thread is more than dead. You don't hear what others do, as you said. That's what makes the world go 'round - art is in the eye of the beholder, etc...

 

But... It's worth mentioning that people are pulling off his licks in bars now, but they weren't 25 years ago when he was doing it. They weren't really his licks anyway - but he took a lot of older blues influence and brought it up front in an era filled with a lot of keyboards. What he did was a lot like what Hendrix did before him, spark an interest in hot blues based guitar. Was he guilty of excessive flash? Sure. So was Jimi. But behind both of them was a very soulful vocabulary.. a pure musicality that few people possess. I hear a lot more in their playing than a few blues cliches.

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srv just runs off licks' date=' go to a bar, or a blues jam, there are lots of people pulling off srv, near chop for chop[/quote']

 

So I think this thread is more than dead. You don't hear what others do, as you said. That's what makes the world go 'round - art is in the eye of the beholder, etc...

 

But... It's worth mentioning that people are pulling off his licks in bars now, but they weren't 25 years ago when he was doing it. They weren't really his licks anyway - but he took a lot of older blues influence and brought it up front in an era filled with a lot of keyboards. What he did was a lot like what Hendrix did before him, spark an interest in hot blues based guitar. Was he guilty of excessive flash? Sure. So was Jimi. But behind both of them was a very soulful vocabulary.. a pure musicality that few people possess. I hear a lot more in their playing than a few blues cliches.

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You kids have no sense of History.And nobody can give it to you ,if you don't hear it you don't hear it.When I started playing guitar in 1969 my Dad would play me Charlie Christian and I did'nt get it.Heck I can play better then that I thought .6 years latter I was buying all the Charlie Christian I could and trying to get that feel.

I have twice the chops that Jimi Hendrix had.I could'nt come close to ever playing anything like Machine Gun (off The band of Gypsys album).Eric Clapton invented the Les Paul + Marshshall tone.Listen to what other guitar players sounded like in 1966 then listen to the John Mayell Blues Breakers album with Clapton.Ask Joe Satriani and Steve Vai who ther favorite guitar player is(Jimi).

I had heard about Stevie Ray before he came out.When I first heard Lets Dance by D Bowie I thought this guy just sounds like Albert King, big deal.I never heard a original note out of Stevie Ray . Guitar playing was getting too complicated at the time and new players needed a goal that was obtainable.Then came the pentatonic wankers who would tell you that they played with feelling as they copied Stevie note for note who was copying Jimi and Albert note for note.Beatup Strats and tube screamers.People paying extra money to have people beat up there Strats.The emperor has no clothes

Few people will ever be original.Please don't compare Jimi to Stevie.Stevie sure would'nt

P.S. To get Stevie mad Jimmy Vaughn would tell him he sounded like Robbin Trower.I like Robbin better.

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You kids have no sense of History.And nobody can give it to you ' date='if you don't hear it you don't hear it.When I started playing guitar in 1969 my Dad would play me Charlie Christian and I did'nt get it.Heck I can play better then that I thought .6 years latter I was buying all the Charlie Christian I could and trying to get that feel.

I have twice the chops that Jimi Hendrix had.I could'nt come close to ever playing anything like Machine Gun (off The band of Gypsys album).Eric Clapton invented the Les Paul + Marshshall tone.Listen to what other guitar players sounded like in 1966 then listen to the John Mayell Blues Breakers album with Clapton.Ask Joe Satriani and Steve Vai who ther favorite guitar player is(Jimi).

I had heard about Stevie Ray before he came out.When I first heard Lets Dance by D Bowie I thought this guy just sounds like Albert King, big deal.I never heard a original note out of Stevie Ray . Guitar playing was getting too complicated at the time and new players needed a goal that was obtainable.Then came the pentatonic wankers who would tell you that they played with feelling as they copied Stevie note for note who was copying Jimi and Albert note for note.Beatup Strats and tube screamers.People paying extra money to have people beat up there Strats.The emperor has no clothes

Few people will ever be original.Please don't compare Jimi to Stevie.Stevie sure would'nt

P.S. To get Stevie mad Jimmy Vaughn would tell him he sounded like Robbin Trower.I like Robbin better. [/quote']

 

I'm confused. Is this post praising SRV or putting him down? =P~

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I'm saying that Stevie is a post Hendrix copy cat and if you do your history you'll see that.Sure he cleaned it up and played it faster but if there had'nt been Jimi there sure would'nt have been Stevie.

 

That line of reasoning will take you back pretty far though, won't it? A more valid point might be that SRV was not as creative and original as Jimi. Both were about taking their influences and cranking them up a notch (or 10!). Jimi was the more creative and original guitarist and songwriter, however.

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Tell ya what - since SRV is so overrated' date=' why don't you youngsters throw some video up of you nailing his cover of Little Wing perfectly (or perhaps bettering it). That'll take care of your Hendrix is overrated idea too! [/quote']

 

+9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

 

So what if SRV used the same chord progression for half his songs? Watch the DVD of him live in Austin playing "Little Wing" and "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" and try to tell me he's not the best damn live guitarist you've ever seen, I dare you.

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I stopped caring 3 pages ago, I stopped reading 2 pages ago.

Honestly, don't get your panties in a twist, it's just one guy's opinion.

 

I mean, the dude like Zakk Wylde, how legit can he be?

 

Just kidding Jess................well not about the Zakk part

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I see this topic still holds interest so I'll add another thought or two. No one is totally original. We all learn from listening and imitating someone that came before us. Is there any blues player that you can call totally original? Stevie was the first one who would tell you all the people that inspired him and he drew from. What SRVs "millions" of fans, including countless bonified guitar heros themselves, admire so much is how he played. The command and finesse that he possesed was incredible. Plus he was a first rate, class act human being. For all his talent, he was as humble as they come.

 

Also, I was surprised and still am that the album he did with his brother, Family Style, never really did much comercially. I still listen to that CD now and it is great from the first song to the last. It's very melodic and pop oriented so you don't have to be a guitar freak to enjoy it. If nothing else, the fact that it came out right around the time of his death should have given it more attention, but it didn't. I never understood that.

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SRV is a legend.Jimi was a legend. You need to give the legends props for what they did and quit comparing them to everyone else. He played blues and brought it to mainstream. I think that's what made him a legend. Has any other blues player done it?

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"No one is totally original" this is true: but SRV was totally unoriginal. And cheesy as hell.

 

Did SRV use the same chord progression on most of his songs? Yes. Does that make him TOTALLY unoriginal? No.

Try listening to some of SRV's slower stuff- in particular Lenny and Texas Flood. How is that completely unoriginal?

 

Also, define "cheesy." So what if the lyrics to "Pride and Joy" are a little cliche? In my opinion, if you can't appreciate a great song because the lyrics weren't written by a first-class professional writer, you don't know what the Blues (or Rock n' Roll for that matter) is all about.

 

By that definition, Elvis, Les Paul, Hendrix, and yes even GnR are all "cheesy."

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