StormShearon Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Good day, I am hoping to get some insght fromt he forum on a possible isseu with my Les Paul traditional Plus. I am getting a fair amount - enough to be distracting while I practice - of noise from the tone and volume knobs in my amp. Is this considered normal? If it si normal is there any remedy? If it is not normal, is it time to talk to customer service and see if the guitar needs to be seen by a repair rep? Thanks for any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat-o-steve Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The noise...do you mean a static scratchy sound when you turn the knobs? If so then the remedy could be as simple as removing the controls from the guitar and cleaning the pots :) Or you can try turning the knobs back and forth their full travel really fast several times to knock out some dirt. Other causes could be bad solder connections, and poor ground connection. Try another cable too, and wiggle the cable when plugged into your output jack to see if you just have a loose jack (this would be easy to fix too, usually requiring only a slight bend to the metal tang) :) I hope you sort this out though, cause that is an AWESOME guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormShearon Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yeah, the noise is a scratchy static through the amp and it gets better with the tone and\or volume reduced - at higher volume\gain on the amp. It is also better (less noise) if the three way switch is in the middle position. I have tried two different cables with no effect. Are the pots supposed to ground through the cable to the to the amp or is the guitarist part of the ground? (I am really new to electric guitars but am having a blast learning to play). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat-o-steve Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 There is usually a ground wire that runs to the bridge post, or the stop bar posts. If the connection is not solid, you could have issues. Is the scratchiness only when you are turning the knobs? If so that's a dirty pot! If it is always present, it is a grounding issue. Some degree of noise is inevitable, but make sure you have a good cable, and that you don't have any computer monitors or other devices (even some lights) that will cause interference. Sitting farther from the amp can help, and so can facing the guitar AWAY from the amp :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormShearon Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I think I will need to try cleaning the pots and check the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Details52 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I had a buzz issue with my 2011 trad pro. It is normal for a little noise. But I had no problems with any noise when moving the pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macmutt Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 You can try removing the back plate to the pots chamber and spraying a can of spray air to clean out any dirt or dust in the pots. Also if your using an older cable you might want to try retightening the cable at the tip, chances are it might be loose and not making a proper connection when plugged into the guitar or amp, happened to me once. If all else fails i would try your local guitar shop for a repair, if you take the time and expense to ship it back to Gibson, it could take a lot longer until you get it back, from what i hear there really busy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker54 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I just posted on another posting site but as I am reading this I will bring it to others attention too. I bought a new LP Tradional Pro yesterday at GC in Memphis. I did not notice the "HUM" at the GC. I could hardly hear the guitar period because of all the "Background Noise" at the GC. I plugged in to my favorite practice amp, a 1968 Fender Champ and the noise is completely unacceptable . I also have a recording studio and I know that the electrical is point on. You can't have noisy electronics in a study. I figure it is a lemon. Surely all Gibson aren't this way. My Epi LP didn't do this nor does my AmericanStrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angellus Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I just posted on another posting site but as I am reading this I will bring it to others attention too. I bought a new LP Tradional Pro yesterday at GC in Memphis. I did not notice the "HUM" at the GC. I could hardly hear the guitar period because of all the "Background Noise" at the GC. I plugged in to my favorite practice amp, a 1968 Fender Champ and the noise is completely unacceptable . I also have a recording studio and I know that the electrical is point on. You can't have noisy electronics in a study. I figure it is a lemon. Surely all Gibson aren't this way. My Epi LP didn't do this nor does my AmericanStrat. no its not normal, if you take a brief recording of the noise I can most definately identify the issue. (dirty pots vs ground issue) I rewire all my Gibsons anyway to my specs anyway but the stock wiring should be fault free. More than likely in the hands of someone that knows what they are looking for (either under warranty or going to your own local repair shop) it could be solved fairly quickly after some inspection otherwise trial an error fault finding yourself can narrow it down then learn how to clean/solder/replace the component or part thats causing the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2112 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Before you start taking anything apart try to make sure where your problem exists. If you have any friends who play nearby try plugging your guitar into their amp, and try plugging their guitar into your amp and see which one is the problem. Troubleshoot by halves when you can. Hope it's a quick and easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker54 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I have already did all the test I should have to do, including changing amps, cables locations. It is faulty grounding. When you put your hands on the guitar there is a little quick pop and then it is quite. No humm or buzzing of any sort. My gripe is with GC now. They should at least check these guitars for the simple issues such as humming and popping as well as intonation and tuning issues. The inspection tag inside the case says that it has been carefully inspected for all the above. Thats a load of CRAP. Oh, did I mention that the darn thing want stay in tune either. And I'm not even a heavy player. But I have been playing guitar for over 40 yrs and I know when a guitar is out of tune. Ping... Ping....Ping .....Nut job too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angellus Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I have already did all the test I should have to do, including changing amps, cables locations. It is faulty grounding. When you put your hands on the guitar there is a little quick pop and then it is quite. No humm or buzzing of any sort. My gripe is with GC now. They should at least check these guitars for the simple issues such as humming and popping as well as intonation and tuning issues. The inspection tag inside the case says that it has been carefully inspected for all the above. Thats a load of CRAP. Oh, did I mention that the darn thing want stay in tune either. And I'm not even a heavy player. But I have been playing guitar for over 40 yrs and I know when a guitar is out of tune. Ping... Ping....Ping .....Nut job too!! yeah the pinging out of tune stuff is your nut. An you hit the nail on the head with the ground issue. They are relatively easy fixes that I or any repair guy could fix fairly quickly, my advice is if you like the guitar (tone feel and finish is to your liking) then get these things fixed by getting the guitar set up by a good tech (I always recommend a good set up when you get a new guitar anyways) then how you deal with GC in terms of money off or something otherwise send it back. these issues though, if you really like the guitar are easy fixes. I've heard many a horror story about GC and other large retailers stock that would make you want to cry. And remember no 2 guitars are ever the same even the same make and model in the same serial progression. good luck and keep us posted on your decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker54 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 yeah the pinging out of tune stuff is your nut. An you hit the nail on the head with the ground issue. They are relatively easy fixes that I or any repair guy could fix fairly quickly, my advice is if you like the guitar (tone feel and finish is to your liking) then get these things fixed by getting the guitar set up by a good tech (I always recommend a good set up when you get a new guitar anyways) then how you deal with GC in terms of money off or something otherwise send it back. these issues though, if you really like the guitar are easy fixes. I've heard many a horror story about GC and other large retailers stock that would make you want to cry. And remember no 2 guitars are ever the same even the same make and model in the same serial progression. good luck and keep us posted on your decision Here is a update on the Tradition pro, I took it back to GC, after the tech looked at it he said that it was a normal noise with the tap switch-split coil models. I played 2 more in stock and they had the same click-pop noise, can't say if Hum was as bad. I decided on a different model. I ordered a Classic Plus. Should be here on Friday. Wish me Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angellus Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Here is a update on the Tradition pro, I took it back to GC, after the tech looked at it he said that it was a normal noise with the tap switch-split coil models. I played 2 more in stock and they had the same click-pop noise, can't say if Hum was as bad. I decided on a different model. I ordered a Classic Plus. Should be here on Friday. Wish me Luck. ok I heard a couple of others on the forum mention noise from the push pull pot. They must be pretty cheap pots to be doing that. Good luck with the classic plus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker54 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 ok I heard a couple of others on the forum mention noise from the push pull pot. They must be pretty cheap pots to be doing that. Good luck with the classic plus! Here is another update on the traditional pro, took it back and ordered a Classic Plus, it arrived Friday afternoon. Beautiful Heritage Cherryburst. Quite as a mouse. Man are the PUPs HOT!!! How do others like the 490 & 500 combination? Mayby a little brittle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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