Is a Traditional a "Standard" and a "Standard" a new breed?

[LPKEN]

Interesting question for everyone. The way I see it is the traditional is a Standard more that a standard is a standard. I think they are both great guitars of course but the trad is more left alone based on the 50/60's than the new standard except the weight relief holes. So I propose a new name for the new standard like les Paul lite or something like that. And rename the traditional to Standard. Just thinking 😉.

 

Ken.

[KL]

Um . . . I don't know Ken. I think they have got enough different names already. It's really confusing with all the different names and models, it must be a nightmare if you are just starting out.

[SlashPerryBurst]

I don't know why Gibson changed the name in the first place. A friend of mine answered an advert for an "07 standard" and found out when he got there that it was one of the new models instead. Personally, I prefer the old standard. I'm not too keen on chambering either, so I think I'll stick to the second hand market.

[Dg77]

This is why I bought my trad plus

[GibSinCity]

I don't know why Gibson changed the name in the first place. A friend of mine answered an advert for an "07 standard" and found out when he got there that it was one of the new models instead. Personally, I prefer the old standard. I'm not too keen on chambering either, so I think I'll stick to the second hand market.

 

Nothing wrong with the used market, but if you want a new, non-chambered Les Paul, you can buy a TRADITIONAL model.

The botom line is, YOU HAVE A CHOICE.

Chambered, Weight-Relief.

Buy the one you like.

Complaining that the model you like isn't the ONLY model offered is just stupid.

[strat-o-steve]

Think of the Traditional as the Standards of 1980's till 2007 :) Gibson could not just chamber out the Standard and have just the only option....people would flip out too much LOL. That's why there are essentially 2 main models of "standards" ....the 2008 Standard, and the Les Paul Traditional Standard. I love my Trad Plus ! and I love my chambered Studio LP just as much. Totally different pickups, and they each sound different, but equally Les Paul-ish.....thick and crunchy, although the studio with that 498T really screams!

[Yaff]

The "Standard" is the current benchmark, and the "Traditional" is for people who want something from the past.

 

I think the current naming convention is OK and if anything should change it should be the "Traditional". This name suggest you are getting the Original "Standard", but your not, you are getting something between the original "Standard" and the current "Standard". You need to get a Custom Shop to get Vintage Original Spec.

 

I think more confusing, is how they have so many versions of the "Traditional" : 60`s Neck, 50`s Neck, Different Pickups and I believe there is now a all Mahogany version.

 

But at the end of the day, labels are many of value to people who care about what others think, opposed to playing and making there own judgment on what is best, so not a big issue.

 

Lets just enjoy the magic of s Les Paul and be great-full that they we are available for most budgets and taste

[SlashPerryBurst]

Nothing wrong with the used market, but if you want a new, non-chambered Les Paul, you can buy a TRADITIONAL model.

The botom line is, YOU HAVE A CHOICE.

Chambered, Weight-Relief.

Buy the one you like.

Complaining that the model you like isn't the ONLY model offered is just stupid.

 

The trad is still weight relieved. I prefer my Lp's nice and heavy. So I will stick to pre chambered/weight relieved. You'd be amazed how many near mint old guitars you can find for the price of a new gibson today.

[Dg77]

The "Standard" is the current benchmark, and the "Traditional" is for people who want something from the past.

 

I think the current naming convention is OK and if anything should change it should be the "Traditional". This name suggest you are getting the Original "Standard", but your not, you are getting something between the original "Standard" and the current "Standard". You need to get a Custom Shop to get Vintage Original Spec.

 

I think more confusing, is how they have so many versions of the "Traditional" : 60`s Neck, 50`s Neck, Different Pickups and I believe there is now a all Mahogany version.

 

But at the end of the day, labels are many of value to people who care about what others think, opposed to playing and making there own judgment on what is best, so not a big issue.

 

Lets just enjoy the magic of s Les Paul and be great-full that they we are available for most budgets and taste

 

Yep, I really wanted the old school feel so I went with the trad.

 

The trad is still weight relieved. I prefer my Lp's nice and heavy. So I will stick to pre chambered/weight relieved. You'd be amazed how many near mint old guitars you can find for the price of a new gibson today.

 

Funny that people think the weight relieved is heavy....it's lighter than my prs Santana...I find it quite comfortable

[Pete the Rocker]

I've been wanting to get another Les Paul myself. I have a '05 LP Classic, and I love the 1960 neck and the ceramic pick ups for songs that need the growl. That being said, those pups are sometimes too hot for some songs that I need a cleaner sound. I've been looking into Standards, Traditional, and the '60's tribute with the P90's the later would likely be used for slide duty. I'm just not up to speed what the sound difference will be between the Traditional, and the new Standard.

[GibSinCity]

The trad is still weight relieved. I prefer my Lp's nice and heavy. So I will stick to pre chambered/weight relieved. You'd be amazed how many near mint old guitars you can find for the price of a new gibson today.

 

If you want a solid body, that's not your only option.

Especially if you're willing to pay the price of a new guitar.

You can always buy a Historic Re-Issue.

They're solid.

All Historic Re-Issues be they Standards or Customs, are solid.

The only exceptions are the Chambered re-issues.

They are identified with a "CR" in front of the serial number.