BluesKing777 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Saw this on the other channel - enjoy the vid: http://acousticaddicts.com/ BluesKing777.
retrorod Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks BK, for sharing the link. What a great comparison video. All of those guitars sounded great. It would be very hard for me to pick a single 'best'. As in wines, I am into the variety of styles. Very cool to be able to see on a graph what the ear is hearing...
E-minor7 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Sorry BluesK – I tried to get through to the end but got killed. Boring, , , and too far from what it's all about -
Duende Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Definitely a horses for courses situation, I loved the Santa Cruz picked; but not so much the strummed sound - I also loved the Koa Taylor demo at the beginning, lots of soul, Nice Matt
57classic Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 As entertaining as this exercise is, I don't think it is very instructive as to how tonewoods vary in sound. More to the point would be to have a full lineup of instruments of the same size, body shape and by the same builder. There are too many variables. Taylor would be a good company to use. For every body style they build the guitars are offered in all woods in the range. Years ago I owned a 314ce (solid Sitka/Sapele grand auditorium). A few years later I traded up to an 814ce. Same body, build, etc. but with EIR instead of the sapele. Big difference in the bottom register. Much better way to compare IMO. Thanks for the post just the same.
DJ in FL Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 All that TECH stuff is great to chart the sounds, bass and treble, but in the end does not it always come back to how guitar sounds to YOU? I always try to get a friend to go with me to see potential new 'git...get them to listen while I play. Then I listen while he plays it. Gives you a different perspective. They all sound good to me! Wish my winning LOTTO would hurry up and arrive so I can make a dent in buying (and playing) them!
E-minor7 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Don't know if I was too spontaneous judgmental here. I'll be the first to advocate for hearing the color, feeling the sight, seeing the sound and so forth, - but maybe more in connection with creativity. To sit and watch a sound on a screen can be a trap. Some of you might know from your computer-recording gear, ProTools or whatever. One can get so caught up in those mountain-landscapes on the 'tv' that it kind of betrays the main purpose – to use your sense of hearing as a guide to something bigger – the music-making. Instead of listening in, the eyes take over and focus is distracted and in reality drained. What I saw in the clip above was a way of testing that became so abstract it did cut the connection to what the instrument is about : Playing. Now apart from the final chord of a song/musical piece, playing is about interrupting oneself (and the others) most of, if not all the time. It's an abrupt series of actions that blends up in a unique picture, , , and becomes a readable pattern on the conditions of the code called MUSIC. The test investigates the audible dimensions of the guitars to a degree that makes them unreal or go beyond. Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it like seeing a slowmotion X-ray film of dancing peoples bones. A scientifically waterproof approach yes, but not much of a party. Perhaps my mistake was to underrate this angle. After all, the times I took a pick, made a serious strum and listened closely 'till the chord died down, are many. With glowing ears hypnotized in the meta zone - …...................................................................
Duende Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 The test investigates the audible dimensions of the guitars to a degree that makes them unreal or go beyond. Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it like seeing a slowmotion X-ray film of dancing peoples bones. A scientifically waterproof approach yes, but not much of a party. Perhaps my mistake was to underrate this angle. After all, the times I took a pick, made a serious strum and listened closely 'till the chord died down, are many. With glowing ears hypnotized in the meta zone - Hmmm Tom, these are uncannily like the words of the late wiseaxe ;) He had a way of describing sound much like your good self....Alas, he is no longer with us. Leg pulling aside, I think the majority of posts on guitar forums (in general, but here included) are very rarely to do with what music is really about; e.g creating and sharing music, talking the creative process of writing/composing, chord progressions, music theory, techniques etc. The topics are dominated very much by 'nuts and bolts' conversations...they can be fun too (in small doses LOL) You can see this weird discrepancy often in the ratio of posts of say when a member posts a picture of their guitar; compared with another member posting a sound clip of their guitar in action. Nearly always, the picture will gather more interest and than what the thing in the picture is built for; i.e not to look pretty, but make sound/music! Matt
j45nick Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 The test investigates the audible dimensions of the guitars to a degree that makes them unreal or go beyond. Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it like seeing a slowmotion X-ray film of dancing peoples bones. A scientifically waterproof approach yes, but not much of a party. Perhaps my mistake was to underrate this angle. After all, the times I took a pick, made a serious strum and listened closely 'till the chord died down, are many. With glowing ears hypnotized in the meta zone I don't want to see the bones...... I want to feel the flesh of the music.
Spot Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Saw this on the other channel - enjoy the vid: http://acousticaddicts.com/ BluesKing777. Love it!!! Thanks BK!!!! If this is only the pilot,...I'm hooked!!!!
E-minor7 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Leg pulling aside, I think the majority of posts on guitar forums (in general, but here included) are very rarely to do with what music is really about; e.g creating and sharing music, talking the creative process of writing/composing, chord progressions, music theory, techniques etc. The topics are dominated very much by 'nuts and bolts' conversations...they can be fun too (in small doses LOL) As said before, being on this Board sometimes gives the impression of what it must be like to be deaf. Not that the various communications get baroque* by dialogues falling in east'n'west, but because all those mute pictures/written lines about sound and instruments can appear to stand shouting quiet. You can see this weird discrepancy often in the ratio of posts of say when a member posts a picture of their guitar; compared with another member posting a sound clip of their guitar in action. Nearly always, the picture will gather more interest and than what the thing in the picture is built for; i.e not to look pretty, but make sound/music! Still those blooming color-pics are like relaxing candy, don't you agree. In fact I'm quite pleased with the horizon of angles on the Board-theme – the sonic, the silent, the serious, the searching, the scientific, the silly, , , they all belong in the village. Therefor I got a bit dissatisfied with my own comment on the test (sounds like I'm following the Mao-China self-criticism - "I worked poorly at the dam today" - principle here) - though I'll maintain that too much screen-watching is a trap and that the purple/orange graphics in post #1 gives me kinda looong balls, if you allow me the phrase. But why not take that study also – those guys had an intensely groovy time and wanted to share. Hmmm Tom, these are uncannily like the words of the late wiseaxe ;) He had a way of describing sound much like your good self....Alas, he is no longer with us. *Dear Dave - being from abroad, I haven't got a clue about of whom you're talking. Your dad, , , , or some character from the Lords of Rings. . . . . .........................................................................................................................................................................................................Keep Rockin' - E-minor7
E-minor7 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Wiseaxe, , , pardon. A former member here, , , ? I vaguely remember.
Duende Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 As said before, being on this Board sometimes gives the impression of what it must be like to be deaf. Not that the various communications get baroque* by dialogues falling in east'n'west, but because all those mute pictures/written lines about sound and instruments can appear to stand shouting quiet. Still those blooming color-pics are like relaxing candy, don't you agree. In fact I'm quite pleased with the horizon of angles on the Board-theme – the sonic, the silent, the serious, the searching, the scientific, the silly, , , they all belong in the village. Therefor I got a bit dissatisfied with my own comment on the test (sounds like I'm following the Mao-China self-criticism - "I worked poorly at the dam today" - principle here) - though I'll maintain that too much screen-watching is a trap and that the purple/orange graphics in post #1 gives me kinda looong balls, if you allow me the phrase. But why not take that study also – those guys had an intensely groovy time and wanted to share. *Dear Dave - being from abroad, I haven't got a clue about of whom you're talking. Your dad, , , , or some character from the Lords of Rings. . . . . .........................................................................................................................................................................................................Keep Rockin' - E-minor7 I am sure in a parallel universe another poster called Matt (on another Gibson forum) is finding this reply well written and easy to understand. After he logs off, the other Matt is about to watch Shindler's list starring Steve Martin and Chevy Chase - The Times called it "a rip roaring laugh a minute comedy"... The reminder? Not my papa or a Lord of the Rings character old chap, just someone who wrote a little on the superfluous and surreal side :D If not Tom, then what is the name of the man who calls himself Eminor 7 (and doesn't have any personal details on his page); or does he prefer the anonymity the internet has to offer? Yes, of course I love pictures and the nuts and bolts of guitars too, I just prefer talking music and hearing people play and how they do things a lot more. Matt
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