lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 So I bought this guitar roughly 10 tens ago. It has always been a mystery to me. So here is what I know: It was originally bought at a Dallas guitar show I bought it from Michael Guthrie in Athens The sticker says it is a Sheraton II (plays/feels nothing like my mid 90's Sheraton II) Sticker also says Noel Gallagher model (this looks more like his Union Jack than the ones Epi made years ago including the correct tailpiece and pickups) It plays and sounds great. On the back of the headstock it has Custom plate Of course the serial# has been blackened out. I think I can read the last for digits. Any ideas would be great, Thanks for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think it's homemade..... or do you think Epiphone got the name wrong on the label...... GALLAGEER instead of GALLAGHER LOL! Yep, its an Epiphoney Nole Gallageer. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 You know I never noticed the misspelled name. I had Noel sign it years ago and it was never brought up. I got Noel to sign the guitar years ago so it def a piece I will have for many years to come. I wonder why someone would bother to black at the serial#? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Actually, if you look close, the "E" could actually be an "H" that has been smudged or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 OK, I just blew up the picture the reason I never noticed the EE is because it is HE. I feel a little better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Well, even if the guitar is a legitimate Epiphone, that label is not (at least to that guitar). It looks like someone probably lifted it from a real Supernova...which might explain why the serial number has been blacked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I agree, I guess when they put in the Mini HB's they covered the screw holes from the original HBs. Some one really too some time on this. The color is off from Noel's but it crazy close. It is a lot of work for a player that most of the US could care less about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The Noel Gallagher signatures have been Rivieras with different headstocks and different inlays... this one looks like a Sheraton with a modded tailpiece and repainted to me http://epiphonewiki....agher_Supernova I agree, I guess when they put in the Mini HB's they covered the screw holes from the original HBs. Some one really too some time on this. The color is off from Noel's but it crazy close. It is a lot of work for a player that most of the US could care less about. To answer both posts at once... The only problem with this, is that there are no Sheratons with mini-hums with this headstock configuration. They would have had to fill the pickup routes to put in those mini-hums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I really have no reason to believe it is not a real Epiphone at least not yet. Hopefully someone with a Noel model can tell me/us what their label says. To me I believe it is a modded Sheraton II but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thats what it looks like to me too. VERY modded...i mean, filling in the pickup routes to fit mini-hums probably isnt easy. I thought that the Supernovas said "Supernova" on the label, but I'm not certain. Could be both, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 and the stoptail-studs.....and hide it under the repaint Yeah, thats probably easy though. I dont have a clue about how to fill in the humbucker routes to maintain enough integrity to hold a smaller pickup. I'm sure there is a way, but probably not so easy for the layman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I have compared them in person just never thought to look at the label. The model Epiphone came out with really was a joke. Not sure outside of money why Noel agreed to it. I must say joke only in that the Union Jack looks nothing really like his outside of the paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Whats even stranger about the EPiphone Supernova is that Noel's was a Sheraton, yet Epiphone made them from basically what amounted to a Riviera. As a matter of fact, you can buy the same guitar in Japan as a non-signature guitar, and its called a Riviera II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Didn't the original Sheraton models come with frequensator and mini Humbuckers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Didn't the original Sheraton models come with frequensator and mini Humbuckers? Yes, but the headstocks were either the short or elongated open-book style. This guitar has the fancy version of the clipped-ear headstock like the Sheraton II. And all of the mini-hum versions produced in the recent past have had the same elongated open-books like the second gen. 1960's Sheratons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yes, but the headstocks were either the short or elongated open-book style. This guitar has the fancy version of the clipped-ear headstock like the Sheraton II. And all of the mini-hum versions produced in the recent past have had the same elongated open-books like the second gen. 1960's Sheratons Oh yea, and a Riv doesn't have the floral inlay on the headstock. so we reckon it's a modded Sheri ii of some sort? looks closer to the Noel guitar than the proper signature does. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Great discussion, thanks for the input. Maybe I will get lucky and the guy/girl who did the work will be on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 I knew it was not a stock model for sure. I was/am hoping whoever did the work may read this thread. For all I know it could be a prototype of Noel's model because it sure looks more accurate than the one that came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 @ Neil: Thats what I'm guessing. Its weird that the label says Sheraton II on it as well, since the Supernova and Riviera II are the same guitars. I's like to see a verifiable Supernova label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celoaz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hey people! Take a look at this one, taken from Maine Road DVD: Same guitar, isn't it? I'm a HUGE fan of Noel and all his work, and I think that the guitar could be real. Not the Supernova, but a custom Noel Gallagher's Sheraton (a personal one, I mean). Noel is known by the use of Gibson Archtop guitars (not Epiphone) since he is famous (Definitely Maybe, 94) and if you search, there's no videos or notice that he ACTUALLY used his sign model (a.k.a Supernova) in concerts, videoclips or etc. The guitar in question, obviously, is NOT a supernova, but it could be a special finish made for the Oasis guitarist, and acquired by our friend. I confess, if it's truth, I'm jealous. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi that would be nice but not sure it came from Noel's camp. He signed the guitar for me and the never said a word. I should have said something when he did it but I felt odd having him sign it. He has always been cool when we talk to him I just usually ask him to sing a record or poster. As a matter of fact I am going to my 4th solo Noel show next month in DC. I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celoaz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 If I were you, I'll take the guitar to DC and try to ask him if the guitar is the same (or, at least, an original one) from Maine Road. It's so hard to do, i know, but if you got a sign at your guitar, I think you can ask it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I was going to fill the TP holes in my Elitist sherry before a union flag refin, look like this one has had the same treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashleyb Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 If I were you, I'll take the guitar to DC and try to ask him if the guitar is the same (or, at least, an original one) from Maine Road. It's so hard to do, i know, but if you got a sign at your guitar, I think you can ask it :) The Noel Gallagher Union Jack Guitar is a mid to late 60's (if i remember correctly a 67) original Epiphone Sheraton with the mini Hums and the frequencer tail piece It was originally Tobacco sunburst and his ex wife had it re-painted in Denmark Street It is not the same as the Sheraton II (Which is still a very nice guitar) and nothing like a Supernova By the looks of it and i hope this doesnt cause offence its a home made job How does it play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon08 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 The Noel Gallagher Union Jack Guitar is a mid to late 60's (if i remember correctly a 67) original Epiphone Sheraton with the mini Hums and the frequencer tail piece It was originally Tobacco sunburst and his ex wife had it re-painted in Denmark Street It is not the same as the Sheraton II (Which is still a very nice guitar) and nothing like a Supernova By the looks of it and i hope this doesnt cause offence its a home made job How does it play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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