Classy-ness Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Idk which one to get I'm also planning to get a zoom G1u to go with it.. I want the SG because of the 490s tone,the similar dual necked guitar which Slash used here Guns n Roses Live in Tokyo Ideally I get a standard SG but it retails for $1,199 :unsure: so I won't have any cash left over for a cable or even the zoom.. Is it really worth it? I also saw the SG Special the SG Special Faded and the SG special Satin Ebony can anybody tell me the main differences and whether the overall sound and durability is different between these guitars?
StijnV Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 The SG faded has less layers of lacquer used for the body, so the finish really wears off very quickly, to get the faded finish looks. The satin version has a satin finish and the standard version has thus a high gloss nitro finish.
SlashPerryBurst Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I'd forget about the Zoom. I know it seems like a good idea, but my friend had that exact model and it wasn't very good. I also had one of their amps when I was just starting out and it was terrible. If you ask me, you're better buying whichever guitar you prefer. If that's the standard, then so be it. You'll won't be happy if you sacrifice and effects pedals etc are smaller purchases that you can buy later. If you prefer the faded, then by all means buy it, but you won't truly be happy if you don't buy the one you want. Years ago, a friend of mine was going to buy an epiphone and an amp. He really wanted a gibson SG and could afford it so he decided to let the amp wait a few months. He still has the SG and loves it to pieces.
Twiz Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I'd recommend waiting, and saving the extra cash for the SG Standard. Don't get me wrong, the other SGs in your list are great guitars as well, but Standards are awesome. I think you'll thank yourself later. Another option, would be to look to buy a used one. It might take a little more work, but you can find some pretty good deals if you are patient. For example, I got this guy on Craigslist for $650 (about 1/2 the cost of a new one). Good luck with your search. Remember, when you get your SG, the rule is you have to post photos up here. Cheers.
DestructorsKillMusic1982 Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Nice Flying V Twiz! I love the look of the classic white against the pure white pickguard, always reminds me of very early Metallica. I've got a white loaded V pickguard and truss rod cover and am hoping to build something similar if the right V body comes up on ebay (gonna finallu try out a set of Bareknuckle pickups in it too)
DestructorsKillMusic1982 Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 As for SGs, I know the huge downside is not getting to play it first, but if you are patient I suggest watching the Guitar Center website for a used one, search for Gibson SG then sort by price, I've seen Standards turn up for between $700-$800 at times and faded Specials as low as $350-$400 on occasion
seluah Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I can recommend both the Classic and the Standard. I got both of mine used -- the 2006 Classic I got for $700 (including shipping) on eBay. I bought the 2010 Standard used from the local Guitar Center last week for $800. I don't think you will find two better guitars for the money. I've always loved the P90 sound because I grew up playing a 1971 SG Pro that belonged to my brother, so that's why I went for the Classic. The pickups have the sweetest and warmest tone. I added a Vibramate B5 and a Bigsby to the Classic and I was in business. So then recently I got the Standard to have a contrast -- I wanted a non-tremolo humbucking guitar for screaming sounds. I agree with some of the others that have already posted -- get the right guitar. Don't worry about effects until you have the right axe. But don't order any guitar from eBay without getting the seller to allow you at least a three day return window. And if you buy from Guitar Center, you can return a guitar within 30 days and they won't charge you a restocking fee.
Classy-ness Posted February 24, 2012 Author Posted February 24, 2012 I'd forget about the Zoom. I know it seems like a good idea, but my friend had that exact model and it wasn't very good. I also had one of their amps when I was just starting out and it was terrible. If you ask me, you're better buying whichever guitar you prefer. If that's the standard, then so be it. You'll won't be happy if you sacrifice and effects pedals etc are smaller purchases that you can buy later. If you prefer the faded, then by all means buy it, but you won't truly be happy if you don't buy the one you want. Years ago, a friend of mine was going to buy an epiphone and an amp. He really wanted a gibson SG and could afford it so he decided to let the amp wait a few months. He still has the SG and loves it to pieces. Are there any good multi-effects pedals with patches you can edit out there? Also,I don't really care about the hotter bridge humbucker in the Standard...do u still think it's worth it?
Classy-ness Posted February 24, 2012 Author Posted February 24, 2012 I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I'd recommend waiting, and saving the extra cash for the SG Standard. Don't get me wrong, the other SGs in your list are great guitars as well, but Standards are awesome. I think you'll thank yourself later. Another option, would be to look to buy a used one. It might take a little more work, but you can find some pretty good deals if you are patient. For example, I got this guy on Craigslist for $650 (about 1/2 the cost of a new one). Good luck with your search. Remember, when you get your SG, the rule is you have to post photos up here. Cheers. ok,Will it sound fine through this amp because this is what i've got <_< this one
anaconda Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Are there any good multi-effects pedals with patches you can edit out there? Also,I don't really care about the hotter bridge humbucker in the Standard...do u still think it's worth it? Like some one else said FORGET THE EFFECTS PROCESSER. i can see from you amp/guitar link you posted you are probley a beginner. you also stated you dont care about the hotter bridge pickup. but you will regret not getting it. the standard is the better guitar. if all the money i had would just get me the sg standard i would not think twice about it. but i see you have a problem wanting effects and a guitar. My best advise would be to put you money into a new or used tube amp first. and a cheaper sg or tube amp and a epiphone les paul or sg, and forget the processor. you dont need it. use the amp settings/overdrive and eq to get close. also you could change the pickups later when you get more money and progres from there if you not getting close the tone from the video from you amp then its not going to help any other guitar sound better on it. amps do make a differnce. also slash likes to roll the neck pickups tones down low or no tone on the neck pick up. i do this a lot when playing knocking on heavens door solo's ect . i have a digitech rp500 but just with my amps and some over drive and playing with the tone controls on the amp it sounds really close. Try playing around with the tone/volume knobs on you guitar they do make a difference . so just take some time and think it over visit some guitar stores and try out amps ect. i know its tough but nobody gets there over knight. i wish you all the luck with your quest. If you really want to know what slash uses for his sounds see what he uses in the vid. link. its not as easy as most people think. later.
SlashPerryBurst Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Are there any good multi-effects pedals with patches you can edit out there? Also,I don't really care about the hotter bridge humbucker in the Standard...do u still think it's worth it? You can't really make the decision until you sit down and play them. One should stand above the rest. As for the multi effects pedals, I hated them. I played in a band with a guy who had a really expensive one and it still sounded like crap imo. Buy the guitar that you want, then you can focus on amps and effects later. Chances are you'll replace whatever effects pedals or amps you buy. But I'd bet that you'll still have your sg for many years.
Classy-ness Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 Like some one else said FORGET THE EFFECTS PROCESSER. i can see from you amp/guitar link you posted you are probley a beginner. you also stated you dont care about the hotter bridge pickup. but you will regret not getting it. the standard is the better guitar. if all the money i had would just get me the sg standard i would not think twice about it. but i see you have a problem wanting effects and a guitar. My best advise would be to put you money into a new or used tube amp first. and a cheaper sg or tube amp and a epiphone les paul or sg, and forget the processor. you dont need it. use the amp settings/overdrive and eq to get close. also you could change the pickups later when you get more money and progres from there if you not getting close the tone from the video from you amp then its not going to help any other guitar sound better on it. amps do make a differnce. also slash likes to roll the neck pickups tones down low or no tone on the neck pick up. i do this a lot when playing knocking on heavens door solo's ect . i have a digitech rp500 but just with my amps and some over drive and playing with the tone controls on the amp it sounds really close. Try playing around with the tone/volume knobs on you guitar they do make a difference . so just take some time and think it over visit some guitar stores and try out amps ect. i know its tough but nobody gets there over knight. i wish you all the luck with your quest. If you really want to know what slash uses for his sounds see what he uses in the vid. link. its not as easy as most people think. later. I get your point.Just did the conversion for an SG standard . If I get an epiphone it'll be a Les Paul Tribute Standard most likely but I'm really keen on getting Satin Ebony or Faded Special SG...like you said,I can change the pickups later.I'll take your advice and forget about effects,for now. That brings me to Amps,What are some good choices under $200? I like these Fender Mustang 1 20W and Fender Mustang 2 40W
JM2112 Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 IMHO, you need to get the guitar that sounds and feels best to you. If you short change yourself for instant gratification by getting a second or third choice then what's the point? It may take a little longer to get what you want, but that's the price of it, and will you really be happy if you buy something lesser? The SG Standard is a great guitar, I have one. I'm not saying the other models are not great or not good by any means, but finding what's great for you is something you need to find for yourself and that's what you need to get.
sg50 Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I get your point.Just did the conversion for an SG standard . If I get an epiphone it'll be a Les Paul Tribute Standard most likely but I'm really keen on getting Satin Ebony or Faded Special SG...like you said,I can change the pickups later.I'll take your advice and forget about effects,for now. That brings me to Amps,What are some good choices under $200? I like these Fender Mustang 1 20W and Fender Mustang 2 40W I bought a Vox valvetronix 40w for well under $200. It is a good sounding practice amp that just might be loud enough for a jam (never tried). I replaced the speaker with a vintage Celestion, so I think I'm now in this amp for $250 or so. I love it. And it has a bunch of effecs that I can play with when I'm bored, but usually, I stick with a fender tube tone, with a super clean, and very dirty tone being the fall backs. I'd recommend this amp to anyone. And good call on the standard. You will not regret it.
69tele Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 get the standard and later save up for the FX processor (not the zoom !) and amp etc
sellen Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 for the best sound for around 1000$, money is best spent on a good amp. Epiphone sg g 400 + egnater tweaker 40 combo = 1100-1200$ But there's nothin' cooler than having a genuine Gibson sg Good luck
anaconda Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 for the best sound for around 1000$, money is best spent on a good amp. Epiphone sg g 400 + egnater tweaker 40 combo = 1100-1200$ But there's nothin' cooler than having a genuine Gibson sg Good luck Try looking on guitar center site or how about craigslist ads in your area. there are some 4-5 watt tube amps for around 200.00 new. any of them would be way better than what you were looking at. 4-5 watt tube amps are pretty loud. they will suprise you. link http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Vibro-Champ-XD-Guitar-Combo-Amp-104494265-i1371396.gc http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tube-Combo-Amplifiers-Combo-Amplifiers.gc?categorysearch=true&o=1
Blackflag Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 The SG Melody Maker is a ridiculously good guitar.
bigtim Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 The heck with effects until you learn to play good. I would spend the money on the best guitar I can afford and have someone help set it up correctly, then learn how to play it the right way and get good at it. Then later on get a better amp. Like someone else has mentioned, I also have a VOX AD50VT amp and it is in my opinion one of the best if not best modeling amp I have been around and it sounds as good as alot of high end amps. Plus it has a ton of effects to boot. You can pick up these used for 200.00 or so if you watch online classifieds and such but the heck with that for now, I would go for the SG standard. If you do not know much about guitars, I would also get someone who knows how to play good and has some knowlege about guitars, help you pick one out at a local music store. Just my 2 cents, Tim
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