Any statistics of Martin, Gibson and Taylor player numbers ?

[gotomsdos]

A question occured to me, anybody or any organizations who ever made any statistics (all time or some period of time) of the numbers of players of Martin, Gibson and Taylor guitar ?

Or in other word, Who has the biggest acoustic guitar player numbers ?

I have no any bias, just curious of the fact possible or impossible to get.

 

Just remove the post, if it's considered as "trouble looking".

Any objective data would be appreciated..

No personally biased opinions

[E-minor7]

Sorry, this flies right over my head Gotomsdos.

 

Will follow the thread develope with excitement.

[Elmer]

Gotomsdos...

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c>dir *Gibson*.* /s ... must work!

 

haha

 

serious now,

I think that will be difficult to find.

But maybe an avarage is possible if you start a poll here and sign in on other guitar forums and create a same poll there.

 

might be fun to try and see how far we come to find figures that can be trust.

 

Phone to stores that sell all 3 brands. Search for, say 5 stores, and ask the question and a few other do the same with other stores in other country.

Then also with the numbers of the polls of a few forums...you maybe find a coarse avarage.

[ParlourMan]

The figures that tend to be put about on these types of threads are in the region of:

 

Martin makes 85,000 guitars a year.

Taylor makes 40,000 guitars a year.

Gibson makes 12,000 acoustic guitars in montana a year.

 

No guarantee of accuracy though, merely rehashing info available with a quick google search.

[gotomsdos]

The figures that tend to be put about on these types of threads are in the region of:

 

Martin makes 85,000 guitars a year.

Taylor makes 40,000 guitars a year.

Gibson makes 12,000 acoustic guitars in montana a year.

 

No guarantee of accuracy though, merely rehashing info available with a quick google search.

Big hands to you ParlourMan !

You thrilled me !

Fancy being able to get the info on Google ! I didn't even think of searching on internet coz I didn't think possible to get such data on it...

 

BTW, I guess most of the numbers above are sold out every year...If so, production amount basically shows sales amount, approximately player amount.

[Elmer]

 

BTW, I guess most of the numbers above are sold out every year...If so, production amount basically shows sales amount, approximately player amount.

 

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

[gotomsdos]

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

Correct. Number of player should be changed into store sales amount (actually i.e. popularity). But I guess it's not contradictionary. Both numbers will be counted like this: G+1, M+1. (with T+0).

And most important is what the respective (3 brands) STORE SALES amount is. Coz some are hung walls a long time.

[pfox14]

The figures that tend to be put about on these types of threads are in the region of:

 

Martin makes 85,000 guitars a year.

Taylor makes 40,000 guitars a year.

Gibson makes 12,000 acoustic guitars in montana a year.

 

No guarantee of accuracy though, merely rehashing info available with a quick google search.

These numbers really surprise me assuming they are pretty close to accurate. I can't believe Martin makes that many guitars - sounds way too high.

[Lefty Guy]

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

 

Me - 2 Gibsons & 1 Martin.......but the Martin's for sale ;-)

[ParlourMan]

As I say, no guarantee of the accuracy....

 

I would agree it seems high, wasn't it only last year there was a big thread about the 1 Millionth Martin model with all the Leonardo Davinci style inlay work, the last supper etc.. seems an awfully high annual amount for a company who's just made the 1 millionth model yet has been going for not too far shy of 2 centuries.

[thevalleygirl]

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

 

I have 3 Gibsons and a Martin. I prefer my Brad Paisley J45 to the Martin.

[Eyecon]

The figures that tend to be put about on these types of threads are in the region of:

 

Martin makes 85,000 guitars a year.

Taylor makes 40,000 guitars a year.

Gibson makes 12,000 acoustic guitars in montana a year.

 

No guarantee of accuracy though, merely rehashing info available with a quick google search.

 

 

If those numbers are accurate the Martin factory is a very busy place. If Martin built guitars everyday of the year, closing only 2 days (Thanksgiving & Christmas) they produce a guitar every 2 minutes of an 8 hour shift for 363 straight days. Never skipping a beat. How does a guitar maker do that and still claim to be "Hand Made"?

[thevalleygirl]

These numbers really surprise me assuming they are pretty close to accurate. I can't believe Martin makes that many guitars - sounds way too high.

 

Just think formica... There are no Gibsons that are plastic, just fine woods...

[jdd707]

Well as those of us who have dealt with stats in other contexts will tell you: "there are 3 kinds of liars: liars, damned liars, and statisticians". Much depends on how one asks the question. For instance, G asked how many players. Parlour's answer was how many produced. Well, as we know, Gibson acoustic has no "low end", depending on Epi to reach that part of themarket. Martin and Taylor produce lower priced models and sell a lot of them.So this answer compares apples and oranges. One would have to control for such elements time also, since Martins and Gibson have been around forever, unlike Taylor.

 

I would guess that a better question would be: how many current players play guitars that cost over 2K.

Gee, reminds me of grad school ... hated stats ... makes my head hurt. I think I'll play my guitar.

 

Interesting question, though. I'll bet the marketing departments of all three companies can tell you (but probably won't).

[Markini]

Or just find out the number of "made in the USA" acoustic Gibsons, Martins and Taylors. This will thin out the made in mexico, made in korea, etc.. and probably provide a fairly sane statistic.

[JuanCarlosVejar]

here is what I found after searching on other forums :

 

On a factory tour, Gibson states that 65 guitars are made in Bozeman each working day so yeah, would be around 17,000. They employ around 140 people.

 

In 1986 Martin produced only some 7,600 guitars and Taylor just over 680.

 

Last figure I heard Martin was turning out around 70,000 guitars per year.

 

Taylor churns out around 50,000 guitars

[j45nick]

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

 

Me. Four Gibsons, two Martins. Lots of folks here the same, even more so.

 

I'm an equal-opportunity hack player. I can abuse the best.

[rar]

The figures that tend to be put about on these types of threads are in the region of:

 

Martin makes 85,000 guitars a year.

Taylor makes 40,000 guitars a year.

Gibson makes 12,000 acoustic guitars in montana a year.

I believe that the Taylor and Martin numbers are both way low. In his 2010 book, "Guitar Lessons", Bob Taylor predicted that Taylor production would be between 100,000 and 110,000 in 2011 -- still all built in the USA, AFAIK. Someone who took the Martin factory tour last month posted on the AGF that Martin claims to be building 1200 guitars per day. Obviously, that is total production. I believe their U.S. factory production was 66,746 in 2010, which translates to around 300 per day (which is what I've heard from other industry sources). Whatever the exact numbers are, the other two of the Big Three completely dwarf Gibson.

 

-- Bob R

[JuanCarlosVejar]

I believe that the Taylor and Martin numbers are both way low. In his 2010 book, "Guitar Lessons", Bob Taylor predicted that Taylor production would be between 100,000 and 110,000 in 2011 -- still all built in the USA, AFAIK. Someone who took the Martin factory tour last month posted on the AGF that Martin claims to be building 1200 guitars per day. Obviously, that is total production. I believe their U.S. factory production was 66,746 in 2010, which translates to around 300 per day (which is what I've heard from other industry sources). Whatever the exact numbers are, the other two of the Big Three completely dwarf Gibson.

 

-- Bob R

 

i agree with Bob ... but I do believe that this doesn't hurt Gibson since they produce Electrics and Bluegrass Instruments too.

[gotomsdos]

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I would guess that a better question would be: how many current players play guitars that cost over 2K.

...

Statistics of 2K+

Great suggestion !

Or Statistics of US made numbers.

It will show out basically the serious or experienced player numbers

[DJ in FL]

Same player can have a Gibson and a Martin...how many here only on this forum has got gibson and Martin?

 

Count me in the owning Martin, Taylor and Gibson...not necessarily in that order at any given night!

 

[DJ in FL]

Well as those of us who have dealt with stats in other contexts will tell you: "there are 3 kinds of liars: liars, damned liars, and statisticians".

 

Interesting question, though. I'll bet the marketing departments of all three companies can tell you (but probably won't).

 

 

Why do you think they call it MARKETING (if their lips are moving...).

 

You are SO RIGHT that mkt depts know about the competition numbers and absolutely they will not share any ACCURATE info with you.

 

Good topic, good luck getting a semi-accurate answer.

 

[Harmonics101]

The reason why Gibson production numbers are low for acoustics, at least the ones that come out of Montana is, not that many GOOD guitar players and all of 'em buy Gibson, therefore the numbers are so low.

 

Hey, nuthin' wrong in being one of the few best !!

 

Harmonics101