Pin Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Of Granadillo: "Very hard, heavy, and dense with a tight grain and a fine texture". That sounds good enough to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I like it a lot it sounds amazing. To make it short this time: Oil it and enjoy it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Yep, the SigT is currently one of the best LPs available ... better craftsmanship than a Standard from what I held in my hands and when we count in the price, it's unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Im sure its a limited edition like the Classic Plus and The Classic Custom were. That wouldn't be a wise decision by Gibson ... the wine red, ebony and burst are top sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 So wait... If I went to buy a new Les Paul custom, it wouldn't have real ebony as the fret board? Could I custom special order a Les Paul custom and get a real ebony fret board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 So wait... If I went to buy a new Les Paul custom, it wouldn't have real ebony as the fret board? It comes with Richlite crap: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-Custom/Les-Paul-Custom.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I love you Germans :) Beware, I'm not the typical German Back to ritchlite some like it here ... What I hate is Gibson's product politics ... Richlite should belong to Studios, not Customs. It's a cheap material for cheap guitars, not the top line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I love you Germans :) My step mother is German I went to the casino for breakfast with my father and her and the retired German Butcher and his wife joined us. He talked and talked an hour about how he was the master sausage maker :) I just loved him he is 80 and still feisty. It was a splendid afternoon. Back to ritchlite some like it here I hate it I would rather it be Baked maple dyed black I was never a great fan of ebony. I felt rosewood was to soft and ebony to hard. Now I have what I consider to be perfect for my Custom and my Standard. Besides the fact that I am German, too, if you feel ebony is too hard, Richlite indeed would be nothing for you. It is a bit harder than any ebony I feel, but I like it on my SG Supra. However, if I was a bit younger, I perhaps wouldn't have bought the Supra since I believe that refretting Richlite could be a very hard task, if anyhow possible. Even laminated fretboards should be easier to handle in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I believe that refretting Richlite™ could be a very hard task, if anyhow possible. Interesting topic, that I didn't see discussed so far ... not here and not in other Les Paul forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Beware, I'm not the typical German What I hate is Gibson's product politics ... Richlite should belong to Studios, not Customs. It's a cheap material for cheap guitars, not the top line. You sir, are 100% right on that. When I was little, I always wanted a Les Paul Custom, now that I'm older and know more about them, I realize I don't want richlite! It's like recycled cardboard and crap. Good for the environment, not for guitars. It just makes me so mad because I probably will never own a new Les Paul Custom with REAL ebony wood. The Custom is the top-of-the-line Les Paul, for that amount of money I want to get the real thing! Overall it's wood that should be a fret board Not richlite recycled garbage (literally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The Custom is the top-of-the-line Les Paul, for that amount of money I want to get the real thing! Thanks to Richlite it WAS the top of the line. Depending on the preferred neck profile the currently best LPs are the Traditionals and the Signature T, when we want good craftsmanship, playability, sound and looks ... not to forget: price. Regarding ebony let me tell a little story or let's say experience: I was looking at a Gretsch Falcon Double Cut, but decided for the new Panther, because it sounds better acoustically and electric and it felt better. The only difference between those two models besides binding (white versus gold/silver) and f-hole size is the bridge base and fingerboard wood ... ebony versus rosewood. And guess what? The Panther has rosewood ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 You sir, are 100% right on that. When I was little, I always wanted a Les Paul Custom, now that I'm older and know more about them, I realize I don't want richlite! It's like recycled cardboard and crap. Good for the environment, not for guitars. It just makes me so mad because I probably will never own a new Les Paul Custom with REAL ebony wood. The Custom is the top-of-the-line Les Paul, for that amount of money I want to get the real thing! Overall it's wood that should be a fret board Not richlite recycled garbage (literally) I can't quite believe that Gibson would put Richlite (which I regard as junk) on a guitar as beautiful as that Koa Custom (see other thread). What on earth are they thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 What on earth are they thinking of? We also could ask: What are these product managers smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Whilst I completely understand why most people here would prefer an Ebony 'board to one made from Richlite I have to say that the Richlite 'boarded guitars I've played have been 100% faultless and flawless. Tradition is a difficult obstacle to overcome and using it for the LP Custom was, IMO, a bad descision but I believe the guitars will play as good - if not better - than an equivalent ebony-'boarded one. The re-fretting situation HAS been raised a few times here but as no-one with a Richlite 'boarded guitar has yet needed a re-fret all opinions are guesswork. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I mean look at that baby thats the real deal I could care less if its ebony just as long as its black wood. If Gibson would sell this, people would call it "fake ebony", I guess. But it's definitely better than Richlite, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I had my doubts about Richlite until I checked out the SG Supra I finally bought. The only point I am skeptical still is how to eventually refret a Richlite fingerboard. Among the DISQUS comments on the SG Supra article page are the posts I wrote about it. Has anybody of you ever checked out a guitar with phenolic fingerboard, and maybe made A/B comparisons to similar instruments with a wooden one? I would be interested in your results and impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hi Pippy :) I hear you on that I just don't think I would be into resin. I am real happy with mine I wonder why its not the norm? Hi Donny! If I was in the market for a new LP Custom then I'd be disappointed to find it didn't have an ebony 'board as, in my mind, that's what it really, really should have. This is 100% (and I really mean that) down to the Historical aspect of the model. I wouldn't care which country supplied the wood but I'd really like it to be ebony. Similarly, in my mind, a Standard should have a rosewood 'board. Indian; Madagascan or anywhere else would do just as well as Brazillian (IMO) but it should be rosewood. But other 'non-traditional' versions of the Les Paul such as the Sig T and the Custom Lite (or whatever it's called) could come with Richlite; baked-maple; granadillo or anything else Gibson chooses to use and I'd be perfectly OK with that. I consider a Custom Lite with a Richlite 'board to be a thing of great beauty as well as great playability. As I've said before; Richlite feels wonderfully nice to the touch. Baked Maple? The colour thing might perturb me slightly as I like very dark 'boards. So, for instance, I'd be right there with you and your darkened B-M 'board. I'm REALLY not keen on the lighter examples as used on the original publicity shots. Granadillo is an odd one as it can come in such a variety of colours some of which are very appealing in their own right. I'd probably have to decide 'final colour' on an individual basis. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hello Pippy! I agree with You. How couldn't I. A Custom ought to have an ebony fingerboard. Then, I have the Classic Custom with the baked maple. I've been dreaming about a Custom since my teenage years, and if Gibson didn't came out with the Classic Custom, i'd be still just dreaming about it. The introduction of the baked maple on a Custom made it possible for me. Still I don't feel like that's the sacrifice I had to make to have a guitar like that. But, I won't pretend, if I had the chance/fortune/funds to choose, I'd go with the ebony fingerboarded Custom. Only because that's the traditional material. With closed eyes I couldn't tell if it's baked maple or ebony. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I mean look at that baby thats the real deal I could care less if its ebony just as long as its black wood. They need to make this a standard model and keep producing it and the Signature T in the working Musicians budget. We know you could care less, but you're looking at it in a cosmetic perspective. Ebony is argued to have a deeper, darker tone, so of course you're gonna have different sounds between richlite and ebony. Also, there really aren't any two guitars that sound the same, yes they may look the same, have the same pickups and wood, but they can sound totally different. I rather have real black wood on my LPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 The Maple sounds even snappier than the ebony but they are quite similar in tone. If you get the chance to compare you should I did at about 80 db I think I might actually compare them. Wait, is your LPC fingerboard dyed maple? or is it richlite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 It is baked maple with leather dying Well. My Les Paul Custom's fretboad can be any color I want, as long as it's black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Well. My Les Paul Custom's fretboad can be any color I want, as long as it's black. In which case you are in luck! As has been seen, Baked Maple and Grenadillo can each be dyed ebony-black and Richlite already IS black! Go For It, Zeppeholic! Post snaps, of course, or it didn't happen! Looking forward to it!!! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 In which case you are in luck! As has been seen, Baked Maple and Grenadillo can each be dyed ebony-black and Richlite already IS black! Go For It, Zeppeholic! Post snaps, of course, or it didn't happen! Looking forward to it!!! P. Haha I have to buy it first, maybe a good conditioned used one, then dye it. That's why I was wondering what Richlite was, because I thought LPCs had real ebony wood. A quick question though, will the dye mess my inlays up and how can I avoid that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hello All! I am curiously watching this thread... Donny! The same question here. Could You please explain the whole fretboard colouring process detailed? I am still not 100% sure whether I am willing to do it on my LPCC -I am a bit afraid of messing something up on Her. And - to be honest - I am learning on Your expense. What I am really curious about is how long it's going to last. If, one years from now it's still fine on Yours, I'll seriously consider doing it too. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 What I am really curious about is how long it's going to last. If you use wood dye instead of leather dye, it will last forever ;-) This article might be interesting: http://www.woodworkweb.com/woodwork-topics/wood-finishing/24--ebonizing-wood.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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