Philly Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Is it just mine or do most J45's have a bit of an issue staying in tune. It's new, has been set up, new strings, I'm thinking, extremely temperature sensitive ? Thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Have you given it enough time to allow the strings to break in & stretch? That's the only thing I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yes they all do and I've owned three after I restrung them they needed another set up no idea why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I generally find Gibsons need tuning adjustments during a gig more than other guitars. My Furch and Martin seem to stay in tune over time much more than my Gibsons. No big deal, I guess theyre precious little darlings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman_Greg Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No issue with mine  Check the nut it could be grabbing on the strings, assuming you have strung it up correctly  Check out the end of this post on another forum it goes into fine finishing the nut for ultimate performance  SOS - Fitting and cutting a replacement nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 . Going flat? . . Or going sharp? . . Or both? Â Going flat - slipping: make sure the ball end of the strings are properly seated against the bridge plate and the strings are wound on the tuning posts properly. Also getting dry (humidity) and/or the instrument is cooling down. Â Going sharp - Too damp (humidity going up) and/or the temperature of the instrument is rising. Â The environmental conditions can be hard to control, especially when gigging. My guitars tend to go sharp or flat evenly, so the guitar's strings stay in tune with each other, but the reference frequency will rise and fall, causing my guitar to possibly be off pitch with another instrument. Â Â . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thanks Guys, Â I think I kind of agree with EuroAussie.......Precious little darlings. They do go sharp or flat pretty evenly also. Looking possibly to change to a bone nut. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthej45 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yeah mine is a bit finicky too, but I don't mind. Now my little 300$ Taylor Big baby , I could tune up , drag it behind my car , use it as a paddle in a frigid stream, bring it into the sauna and it would STILL be in tune. My j45 , I take it in and out of the case and I need to retune it..........of course once it's in tune HEAVEN. The Taylor sounds kinda like a cigar box with rubber bands strung across it, perfectly in tune of course ! I'll take the Gibby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Odd, my 1951 J45 and my 1953 Southern Jumbo both hold tune for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd707 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No,my J-45 stays in tune all day, most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltonwce Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Depends how I play it . Finger style it will stay in tune for days. Shred it and it needs tuned 20 minuted later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 mine stays in tune for weeks at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbarning Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I have only owned mine for a few months now, but one of the many things that has amazed me about it is how well it stays in tune. Particularly, because my previous go to guitar had major issues staying in tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasAK Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 They seem to hold the string tension better if you tune upto pitch rather than down to pitch. Â chasAK Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyReb Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I find that some strings stretch more and have to be tuned more often. One of a few reasons I don't use Martin strings. Elixers for me always stay perfectly tuned after the break in period. Something to think about and consider. I've never had a problem with a quality acoustic like Gibson not staying in tune well. It's always been strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry K Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Older wood seems to reach a stasis where it catches and releases less moisture. I have heard this referred to as getting dried out, although the wood is not literally getting dried out. So the following applies but maybe somewhat less so to older guitars. As others have mentioned, when the top swells with moisture the pitches get sharper, and when humidity drops the top sinks, hence flatter. The situation depends a lot on your locale. Some places the humidity is quite stable and when it changes generally changes gradually. Other spots may undergo drastic humidity changes in a short periods of time. Your experience is not predictive of mine, nor mine of yours in regard to tuning stability! I have a 2008 Martin 00-18VS leaning against the wall next to a Gibson Blues King approximately the same age. Recently the humidity in Oakland has been going up and down like a yo-yo as we come by turns under continental dry air or ocean wet air. Both guitars exhibit the same changes of pitch. Nearly identical. If you want a guitar that remains in standard pitch in spite of humidity changes, get an all laminate guitar or one of those carbon fibre things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moej45 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Yup...some issues on my end with staying in tune.....is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markini Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 . Going flat? . . Or going sharp? . . Or both? Â Going flat - slipping: make sure the ball end of the strings are properly seated against the bridge plate and the strings are wound on the tuning posts properly. Also getting dry (humidity) and/or the instrument is cooling down. Â Going sharp - Too damp (humidity going up) and/or the temperature of the instrument is rising. Â The environmental conditions can be hard to control, especially when gigging. My guitars tend to go sharp or flat evenly, so the guitar's strings stay in tune with each other, but the reference frequency will rise and fall, causing my guitar to possibly be off pitch with another instrument. Â Â . Actually you have the temperature part backwards. Rising temperature will make the strings go flat (expansion), while cooling temps make them go sharp (contraction). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Never heard of a guitar going out tune sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markini Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Never heard of a guitar going out tune sharp. Â Cold environment can make a guitar go out of tune sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 that happens here now and then when i turn on the AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Never heard of a guitar going out tune sharp. Â Yes they do . . . it happens a lot. Depends on so many things about the environment you are in, as well as the guitar itself and how it is strung etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarrr Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Nut talk.... the angle of the slots in the nut needs to be toward the post and angle down from the fretboard to the post. I was having trouble with medium gauge (ej17) once a time and the luthier showed me how he filed the correct angle. He said that the angle can cause a string to go sharp, all I can say is that he killed two stones with one bird for me. However, hot/cold/hunidity changes are the big ones, I do hate winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Never heard of a guitar going out tune sharp. Happens quite frequently with a drop in temperature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Nut talk.... the angle of the slots in the nut needs to be toward the post and angle down from the fretboard to the post. I was having trouble with medium gauge (ej17) once a time and the luthier showed me how he filed the correct angle. He said that the angle can cause a string to go sharp, all I can say is that he killed two stones with one bird for me. However, hot/cold/hunidity changes are the big ones, I do hate winter. The 'angle of the dangle' is usually equal to the square of the hypotenuse....Jes Sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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