Whitehall Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 How do you know it's even actually a woman? Oh right, it has a picture on FB. So that must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 How do you know it's even actually a woman? Oh right, it has a picture on FB. So that must be true. That's page 2's news.... Sorry, I just HAD to say that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 We keep hearing of 'pics on Facebook' And yet...collectively we see 'no pics'...can this be fair? We are being teased and 'kept on tenderhooks' as a result...almost unbearable Perhaps with the use of copy and paste etc there might be a pic forthcoming (who can say?) The recently invented 'Creep-o-Meter' can then be brought into use... Providing a scientifically validated and unequivocal measure of Creepiness... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enmitygauged Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 "someone" i know worked for a time in a department called the Defence Signals Directorate and Australian defence organisation just by typing that I can tell you it will be flagged :) (hi guys) Now on a serious note I will give you a scenario please don't hate I am only giving you my opinion based on what I have seen and what I have read on Partner Crimes. Guy kidnaps girl keeps her for many years and turns her into a supporter of his crimes or girlfriend of a guy likes to support him and his crimes. He gets her to add people on FB she might be attractive and then she sets about coaching the kids into meeting her. (did she ask the kids what guitars they'd like if not it seems suspect, if you were to buy a gift would you not ask what guitars they want) Now she comes she stays in the hotel she won't give the guitars.. she will say something like Im having them freighted up from indiana because i was worried they would get damaged on the plane. She may indeed have them. She will then get the you and your wife so comfortable around her you'll feel fine about letting her around the kids and then when your guards down you let her take them to the cinema or out for ice cream. and thats when your kids go missing. I know its a horrible thing to say but it is a really common occurrence confidence scams don't just involve money. I have two boys and if this ever came up where some random stranger wanted to give them "free" expensive gifts. I would have the DSD and FBI involved. My advice is if you don't want to have the authorities involved and have outlook as a mail system. Give her your email address ask her to email you the photos from there you can get a GPS location off of them and also off of the email you can get the IP address. The pictures hold data dates and times even the type of camera used. I hope you take this as a person looking out for another. My kids mean everything to me and I would do anything to protect them. If you need help with the GPS or the Photo just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You can tell who can handle themselves on here and who can't. Some of you guys are probably scared of your own shadow. Some of you guys are jealous. Hey Retro, how'd you lose your leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 "someone" i know worked for a time in a department called the Defence Signals Directorate and Australian defence organisation just by typing that I can tell you it will be flagged :) (hi guys) Now on a serious note I will give you a scenario please don't hate I am only giving you my opinion based on what I have seen and what I have read on Partner Crimes. Guy kidnaps girl keeps her for many years and turns her into a supporter of his crimes or girlfriend of a guy likes to support him and his crimes. He gets her to add people on FB she might be attractive and then she sets about coaching the kids into meeting her. (did she ask the kids what guitars they'd like if not it seems suspect, if you were to buy a gift would you not ask what guitars they want) Now she comes she stays in the hotel she won't give the guitars.. she will say something like Im having them freighted up from indiana because i was worried they would get damaged on the plane. She may indeed have them. She will then get the you and your wife so comfortable around her you'll feel fine about letting her around the kids and then when your guards down you let her take them to the cinema or out for ice cream. and thats when your kids go missing. I know its a horrible thing to say but it is a really common occurrence confidence scams don't just involve money. I have two boys and if this ever came up where some random stranger wanted to give them "free" expensive gifts. I would have the DSD and FBI involved. My advice is if you don't want to have the authorities involved and have outlook as a mail system. Give her your email address ask her to email you the photos from there you can get a GPS location off of them and also off of the email you can get the IP address. The pictures hold data dates and times even the type of camera used. I hope you take this as a person looking out for another. My kids mean everything to me and I would do anything to protect them. If you need help with the GPS or the Photo just let me know. Please read the whole thread: 1.She did ask what guitars they wanted. 2.She is not attractive IMO. So they were not lured to her on FB by her looks. 3.My kids are going to be 21 on their birthday (end of July). Don't think she will be taking them for ice cream. 4.She is driving here with the guitars. If she comes up with some kind of story that she doesn't actually have the guitars with her, I'll put a big stop to it. Thanks for your input. Lots of ideas out there to keep in mind. Hope it is really legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenderGuy1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I hate when people scam people, I was once asked to have an LP but the guy was really picky since it was a '59 Burst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work in Progress Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Please read the whole thread: 1.She did ask what guitars they wanted. 2.She is not attractive IMO. So they were not lured to her on FB by her looks. 3.My kids are going to be 21 on their birthday (end of July). Don't think she will be taking them for ice cream. 4.She is driving here with the guitars. If she comes up with some kind of story that she doesn't actually have the guitars with her, I'll put a big stop to it. Thanks for your input. Lots of ideas out there to keep in mind. Hope it is really legit. Slow down, that makes too much sense. I hope you do go through with it. I couldn't, <begin sarcasm> not because the fear of some weirdo luring my adult kids into their white van at the playground <end sarcasm>, but because I'd feel indebted. I hate feeling like I owe somebody something, which is why I end up paying for all my meals/gum/etc. It seems you've got it under control. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I hate when people scam people, I was once asked to have an LP but the guy was really picky since it was a '59 Burst Are you sure it was a legit Burst'? It's bout' time you learn about something called FAKES! Too many out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I see a lot of comments about "safety" and the 2 cents about avoiding scams...mostly those commenting without reading and just wanting to comment. (It's a LONG thread). I am seeing this not so much as a threat...I mean, when I was 21, I don't think I would be in danger of personal safety, but my own foolishness. What I think is interesting, is what potential drama is going to come around this, and how the boys will handle this. What are they going to have or loose AFTER this "thing" goes down? They BOTH have girlfreinds, right? Where is that going to be? What are the level of 'relationship/commitment' status there? I think for a lot of poeple, SOMEONE would be taking a walk. If it was a relationship that was at a certain level of commitment, I would not be happy with my mate pursueing such 'freindships' on facebook...or allowing others to pursue me and participating. Even if the relationship was not that deep or commited, I would'nt go further at that point. I would just say that person ain't ready or wanting it...and I might just walk. I could see a situation where a guy tells his girlfreind if she wouldn't allow him to "have a gift"...or if she wasn't OK with it, he might tell his GF to take a walk. And later regret it when either she is gone or the same thing happens to him in reverse. Of corse, much of this I don't consider my business. Certainly, I don't think it appropriate to share pics or info of another (like some asking for pics of this girl). But still, a lot of interesting questions about what is acceptable and normal concerning the interweb revolution, and what kids and young adults find acceptable or not...as well as how one is expected to conduct themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 No, you should not let this FB acquaintance (not really a friend) near, much less into, your house. If this 'person' wants a meet-up, plan it at a local truck stop, INSIDE the diner with you, your wife and kids. Also, notify the local Jean-de-arms to be on hand... just in case. Actually, better off to have your kids un-friend this weirdo. Dad, this is where the parenting gets tough. Kids need to learn, from us, that all that glitters is not gold on the 'net. Back in our day, this type of person would likely strike up a conversation with young children by saying, "Have you seen my dog? Can you help me find him?" There are many rules children should learn to live by on the 'net. Never EVER, give out your home address, Never EVER, let people know when you and/or your parents will not be at home. This is the oldest con in the book. This person may not, in fact, be in Indiana. He/she could be in St. Louis.... stalking them. Sadly FB is all about baring your soul, likes, dis-likes, personal habits, familial relationships, and your where-abouts-at-all-times. This is a frightening state, but Zuckerburgh says it is 'good for us.' Don't believe this pimply faced kid, gazillionaire. He is being puppet mastered by the best. Retail marketers and YOUR KIDS are the target. Stalkers and pedophiles make good use of this lack of familial security, each and every day. If your kids cannot abide by internet safety, end their FB and internet days FAST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Oh, your kids will be 21. If they wanna meet up with "her," that is their prerogative. Just suggest they do it in a public place and to NOT bring "her" anywhere near your home. I would ask your boys this question, "What person (male of female) in their right mind would want to give gifts worth thousands of dollars to perfect strangers?" People you meet on FB are perfect strangers, regardless what Zuckerburg wants you to call them. At some point, your boys will grow up and realize that having eleventy million 'Friends' on FB is not something to aspire to. Nobody has that many friends (real friends). Oh, and kids? You're 21 now, unless you are in school, it's time to fledge the nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bone Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I hate when people scam people, I was once asked to have an LP but the guy was really picky since it was a '59 Burst Nathan, don't try and BS everyone here, you're not even close to good at it. Stick to playing the guitar, that, you are beginning to get good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work in Progress Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 No, you should not let this FB acquaintance (not really a friend) near, much less into, your house. If this 'person' wants a meet-up, plan it at a local truck stop, INSIDE the diner with you, your wife and kids. Also, notify the local Jean-de-arms to be on hand... just in case. Actually, better off to have your kids un-friend this weirdo. Dad, this is where the parenting gets tough. Kids need to learn, from us, that all that glitters is not gold on the 'net. Back in our day, this type of person would likely strike up a conversation with young children by saying, "Have you seen my dog? Can you help me find him?" There are many rules children should learn to live by on the 'net. Never EVER, give out your home address, Never EVER, let people know when you and/or your parents will not be at home. This is the oldest con in the book. This person may not, in fact, be in Indiana. He/she could be in St. Louis.... stalking them. Sadly FB is all about baring your soul, likes, dis-likes, personal habits, familial relationships, and your where-abouts-at-all-times. This is a frightening state, but Zuckerburgh says it is 'good for us.' Don't believe this pimply faced kid, gazillionaire. He is being puppet mastered by the best. Retail marketers and YOUR KIDS are the target. Stalkers and pedophiles make good use of this lack of familial security, each and every day. If your kids cannot abide by internet safety, end their FB and internet days FAST! Ok, I've got my aluminum foil helmet on, now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 There are many rules children should learn to live by on the 'net. Never EVER, give out your home address, Never EVER, let people know when you and/or your parents will not be at home. Who's going to stay home while the rendezvous happens? Hopefully not the OP's wife on her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I hate when people scam people, I was once asked to have an LP but the guy was really picky since it was a '59 Burst Those are nice Epiphones........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I got to go with the dem00n school of thought here, CUT AND RUN. your boys maybe legal adults BUT if the live in your house it is your rules end of discussion. I myself in that position would lay it down that way too. If it smells like Shite....check your shoes.... There are far too many of the Reasonably minded that have weighed in on this subject with the same opinion. I would seriously consider all the sound advice proffered here, and IMHO I hope to god you DON'T go through with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenderGuy1 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Are you sure it was a legit Burst'? It's bout' time you learn about something called FAKES! Too many out there. I checked the thing, it seemed legit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I checked the thing, it seemed legit! ](*,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Well everybody, here is the update you've been waiting for. Today is their Birthday (my twin sons). Nothing happened, as I suspected. I let it play out and she never posted pictures of herself with the guitars. My one son contacted her last week on Facebook and she said she will probably show up. That was supposed to be last weekend(I assume), I don't know, maybe she meant this coming weekend. But you would think if she was really going through with this, they would have heard more from her. She had not been in contact with them since my last post when I mentioned about her saying she would post pictures of the guitars with her next to them. That never happened. Both of them were sorta uncomfortable with this anyway and I let it play out thinking it would never happen anyway. My next take on this is they should really give her a piece of their minds for playing such a cruel joke on them, but we may just forget about it altogether. We are kind of in a financial bind right now so their birthday's are not as glorious as ones in the past, but I did tell them I'd take them out for a few beer's and some music this weekend. I was honestly hoping in the back of my mind that the guitar deal would come through and brighten up their lives for a change. But we'll have to deal with that another way. If anything happens later this week or this weekend, I'll post another update, but for now this story is probably over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest farnsbarns Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Well everybody, here is the update you've been waiting for. Today is their Birthday (my twin sons). Nothing happened, as I suspected. I let it play out and she never posted pictures of herself with the guitars. My one son contacted her last week on Facebook and she said she will probably show up. That was supposed to be last weekend(I assume), I don't know, maybe she meant this coming weekend. But you would think if she was really going through with this, they would have heard more from her. She had not been in contact with them since my last post when I mentioned about her saying she would post pictures of the guitars with her next to them. That never happened. Both of them were sorta uncomfortable with this anyway and I let it play out thinking it would never happen anyway. My next take on this is they should really give her a piece of their minds for playing such a cruel joke on them, but we may just forget about it altogether. We are kind of in a financial bind right now so their birthday's are not as glorious as ones in the past, but I did tell them I'd take them out for a few beer's and some music this weekend. I was honestly hoping in the back of my mind that the guitar deal would come through and brighten up their lives for a change. But we'll have to deal with that another way. If anything happens later this week or this weekend, I'll post another update, but for now this story is probably over. I guess you frightened the scammer off when you spoke to her. The outcome is hardly a surprise though is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I think this had been said a couple of times on this thread but..... If something looks like it's too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Shame your boys are disappointed but they need to learn that lesson. You get nice things in life by earning them. There's always a pay back somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsPart2 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Your boys have a Dad that really cares for them. This is the best birthday present they could possibly have and I am sure they appreciate you. Take them out for a few beers, buy a CD or two. The fact that they want to spend time with you is worth more than any guitar money can by. Well maybe except a real 59 Les Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Glad it turned out positive. Sadly, with large number of people in rough straits, con-men of this sort are out in force, promising lavish gifts. Even you, a wizened adult, hoped this was legit. Besides at 21 a slap on the back and a shared beer is good enough for dads and sons. No need for retaliation, just un-friend 'her', the block any contact from 'her'. I firmly believe this 'her' has more than the usual and customary "Y" chromosomes for a female of our species. The best defense against these kinds of trolls is to ignore them. You deprive them of what they crave; attention. Good or bad they live for the attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 I guess you frightened the scammer off when you spoke to her. The outcome is hardly a surprise though is it. Good point... she might have been surprised that I actually called her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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