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Serial Number and Date for ES-125

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Dear Jim,

Thank you very much for your input!

I look forward to receiving this guitar. I can't sleep at nights. I'm in the hunt for a late 50s to early 60s P-90, right now and a genuine pickguard. The pickup is a essential. I already have one but i want to get the second one. This is what i always do for my vintage guitars. In the end i'll get an original case, keys, and the correct pickguard and bridge just to have them in the guitar. The P-90s are of course going in the guitar. I was contemplating if this was indeed an ES-125 or any other model looking the same as it appears that the model number is very faint in the F hole on the actual guitar. I already acquired the correct trussrod.

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This is what's inside. 

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It's a 59 TCD?

The bridge pickup cavity is original. The nitro is evident around the cavity.

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Hi Tio,

I just realized that you have not yet posted an image showing the whole guitar.  Since I haven't seen an image of the stamped model name, or the body shape and depth of the guitar, I just want to make sure we're talking about an ES-125TCD here. (Thin body; Cutaway; Double pickups)

As for the fact that the FON appears to pre-date the production of the model, this is not so unusual.  The following excerpt (even though your guitar wouldn't have had a serial number) from guitarhq.com helps to explain:

Another question asked is, "The FON number says the instrument is 1958, yet the serial number says 1959; why are they different?". There is a very logical reason for this. The FON number is stamped on the instrument very early in the manufacturing process. Most times, the serial number is applied as one of the last steps (especially on pre-1961 hollow body instruments) when the instrument is nearly finished. Depending on the demand for the instrument, it could take Gibson up to 6 months to finish the instrument. Hence the FON number could be one year, and the serial number the next year.

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Thanks Tio.  Just wanted to make sure I was talking about the right guitar (so many different 125's sharing this one thread)! 

1960 seems to be the year (reflector-top vol/tone knobs, if original, would suggest the latter part of that year).

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I have what I've always thought - according to the music store that sold it to me ca 1971 (for $115.00) that my ES125 was a 1956.  I can't find any SN on it, however... just a bare faint stamp that's unreadable in the top f-hole center.

I have the pick guard for the guitar but have lost track of the screws to remount it.  Anybody know where I can get something like that?  I checked the Gibson parts page with no luck.

I also need the cover for the headstock nut.  There was one that came with the guitar, but it doesn't line up with the holes in the headstock.

 

thanx

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8 hours ago, hatfieldrc said:

I have what I've always thought - according to the music store that sold it to me ca 1971 (for $115.00) that my ES125 was a 1956.  I can't find any SN on it, however... just a bare faint stamp that's unreadable in the top f-hole center.

I have the pick guard for the guitar but have lost track of the screws to remount it.  Anybody know where I can get something like that?  I checked the Gibson parts page with no luck.

I also need the cover for the headstock nut.  There was one that came with the guitar, but it doesn't line up with the holes in the headstock.

 

thanx

 

The trussrod cover is the same as a Les Paul Junior plain black with no white line around it.

You can get a new one and age it a bit.

Also the pickguard mount is like a Les Paul if i'm not mistaken, so you can get one set and get the screws.

The metal bracket i think is different though, but if you just need the screw that goes into the body and the screw and nut that mounts the plastic pickguard to the bracket, then i think you'll be ok. 

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I've got myself a ES-125 
No real idea about the year... no letter in the serial number either.  
But the serial number look like    12867 17    (no dash between the two series)   It stamp in the inside back on the electronic side. 
The logo seems to be silk screened too .  Mostly all original exept for the tuners.  but...  it's so old ... pretty happy with it... but i just want to be sure  that it 's the real deal.  

Nobody talk about a 5 digit serial number... it's always 3 ou 4 ...  :/   
 

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