JuanCarlosVejar Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Guys , I know that johnny cash had one and Martin has done a run or two for this model is this body style similar to the jumbo body style that gibson uses on J 35's J 45's AJ's and those sort of guitars ? photo :http://coolspotters.com/musical-instruments/martin-d35s-acoustic-guitar JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponzi Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I might be wrong, but technically, a D35 is still a dreadnaught. From what I understand, the main difference between a dreadnaught and a jumbo is the waist, regardless of the type of shoulder. The dreadnaught has a wider waist than a jumbo. I have a D35, and its waist is 10 7/8, about the same as a J-45, but the advanced jumbo is a little smaller than 10 1/2. Like I said, I might be wrong, so if anyone else has a better answer, feel free. BTW, I have a square shoulder D35. I've never seen a round shoulder 12 fret D35, except the old D12-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 . Martin makes Jumbos - the J series - J-28, J-40, etc. J-40 with typical Jumbo shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 I might be wrong, but technically, a D35 is still a dreadnaught. From what I understand, the main difference between a dreadnaught and a jumbo is the waist, regardless of the type of shoulder. The dreadnaught has a wider waist than a jumbo. I have a D35, and its waist is 10 7/8, about the same as a J-45, but the advanced jumbo is a little smaller than 10 1/2. Like I said, I might be wrong, so if anyone else has a better answer, feel free. BTW, I have a square shoulder D35. I've never seen a round shoulder 12 fret D35, except the old D12-35's. but the s in D35s makes it a slope shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponzi Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 but the s in D35s makes it a slope shoulder LOL, I don't doubt you. I can see it clearly in the photo. I just said I never seen one before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 LOL, I don't doubt you. I can see it clearly in the photo. I just said I never seen one before. lol yeah I was just trying to explain why the s =D JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 but the s in D35s makes it a slope shoulder True, but for different reasons. The shoulders of a J-35/J-45/... are smaller than a square-shouldered dread -- the slope is a result of dropping the shoulders. On a D-35S, and other Martin 12-fret dreads, the shoulders are made bigger-- the slope is a result of puffing-up the shoulders around the neck. You wind up with a similar profile, but for opposite reasons. So whatever the tonal affect of the smaller upper bout on the Gibson's is, one would not expect the effect of the larger upper bout of the on the D-35S to be the same. -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 The first Dreadnaught was I think a slope shouldered D made for the Ditson company by Martin. I think the "Jumbo" by Gibson is really just a dreadnaught given another name but using sloped shoulders. My first Martin I got new was a D35 in 1982-3..and Id seen this 12fret version in the literature. Growing up, the dreadnaught was pretty much "the" acoustic guitar but ive come to not like the look of them..(but I like the sound). But contradicting this, today is the day I make a final payment on exactly that..a slope shouldered dreadnaught. On top of that I prefer black ebony..but it has the non black stuff. I really prefer ornate & artistic..but it is as plain & stark as can be. Id prefer playing it first,but instead Im taking an educated guess (& going by the guys advice). Id prefer short scale..its long. Sound & feel is the main thing with the best of the basics..Adirondack top & Brazilian Back & Sides. Hope it does not disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Is the Pope similar to the Archbishop of Canterbury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Is the Pope similar to the Archbishop of Canterbury? huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 huh? Well as in analogous, but not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Neil Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 AFAIK the 'S' does not stand for slope shoulder but for 'Special' (neck). It is a 12 fret dreadnought design. The modern Martin incarnation being the D-28 VS ( the 'V' standing for Vintage series). A 12 fret dread has an elongated ('stretched') body that meets the neck at the 12th fret instead of the 14th fret. As mentioned earlier in this thread, it was originally designed as a 'Ditson' dreadnought but became the Martin dread, featuring a slotted headstock. Later, a banjo player - Perry Bechtel - custom ordered a 14 fret, square shouldered dread and the rest, as they say, is history. What we know today as tve definitive dreadnought Western guitar was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 AFAIK the 'S' does not stand for slope shoulder but for 'Special' (neck). It is a 12 fret dreadnought design. The modern Martin incarnation being the D-28 VS ( the 'V' standing for Vintage series). A 12 fret dread has an elongated ('stretched') body that meets the neck at the 12th fret instead of the 14th fret. As mentioned earlier in this thread, it was originally designed as a 'Ditson' dreadnought but became the Martin dread, featuring a slotted headstock. Later, a banjo player - Perry Bechtel - custom ordered a 14 fret, square shouldered dread and the rest, as they say, is history. What we know today as tve definitive dreadnought Western guitar was born. A banjo player? No wonder the bluegrassers love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Is the Pope similar to the Archbishop of Canterbury? No..The Archbishop looks like a nicer guy & has much thicker eyebrows. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickjwill Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'll add that I owned a '71 D 28-S and currently own a HD-28-VS The D 28-S & D 35-S both have nut that is 1 7/8" wide but neck is surprisingly comfortable. The D 28-S that I owned had incredible sustain and chest shaking bass, much like a grand piano. The only reason I no longer own it is due to my purchase of the HD 28 VS which has all the positive qualities of the D 28-S plus slightly better tone, a 1 3/4" nut and a modified V neck. Never played a D 35-S. The big difference between the D 28-S & the D 35-S besides the 3 piece back is that the D 35-S has lighter bracing, slightly louder and sweeter sounding from what I've heard. Highly recommended fine instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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