LarryUK Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm looking at buying this Cello. But the neck is off. Would it be an easy repair? Just glue and clamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Pic's there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Can't really tell, but I'm really interested, I hope someone with experience says "easy fix" and explains how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 It looks like that would work as long as you get the angle right. Maybe try messaging Andy and hope he comes around soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Having taken up the cello. I'm really surprised how backward the classical instrument world is. There's no technology at all. You can buy electric Cello's but traditional ones are still in the dark ages. Wooded pegs for tuning etc. On the neck point. The fingerboard floats beyond the neck/body joint. So it's a weak point. It could be screwed or doweled. But glueing should be sufficient. I'm surprised that no one does a modern cello, with a proper bridge etc. there's a market there for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codename Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think a glue and clamp will be all it needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 What glue though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'd use Hide glue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 ...I'm really surprised how backward the classical instrument world is. ... traditional ones are still in the dark ages. Wooded pegs for tuning etc. On the neck point. The fingerboard floats beyond the neck/body joint. Isn't that on purpose to achieve a desired tone? Would an electronic cello have that tone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 I meant things like the tuners and bridge really. I know they have fine tuners, but the tuning pegs are still held by friction. Surely there should be some sort of mechanical tuner? I really don't think it would affect the sound. The wooden bridge with grooves cut into it could be advanced somehow. Imagine if we still had the old type tuners etc on guitars now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Well, I think the wooden bridge on a cello is meant to NOT add massive sustain (like metal might). And it moves to adjust intonation - much like a banjo in both those respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The wooden bridge with grooves cut into it could be advanced somehow. I guess my L-5 should have a stop-tail and stud mounted T-O-M. Oh wait a minute, this one is "advanced", it's COMPENSATED! Many high dollar hand built classical and flamenco guitars use friction fit wooden peg tuners. Many of these types of "outdated" features on many traditional stringed instruments fall into the category of "tradition", just the way we like our GIBSONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I meant things like the tuners and bridge really. I know they have fine tuners, but the tuning pegs are still held by friction. Surely there should be some sort of mechanical tuner? I really don't think it would affect the sound. The wooden bridge with grooves cut into it could be advanced somehow. Imagine if we still had the old type tuners etc on guitars now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm pretty sure that cello looks pretty broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Theres not a lot of pressure but cello's are usually picked up at the neck after all how else wood you hold one? I'd probably drop a few small wood peg's in just to prevent any weakness from twisting on a break that flat with such little grain for glue contact then it should be strong as well as being able to deal with some twisting without issue. That said I have no idea how broken neck joint might impact the sound on a Cello so it would be strong enough but not sure how it would sound so it's all about how valuable the cello is I guess before you decide if you should buy it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'm pretty sure that cello looks pretty broke. Way to take a comment out of context. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Way to take a comment out of context. Try again. It was just a joke man, I know what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 It was just a joke man, I know what you meant. Haha sorry then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Haha sorry then. Nah, it's on me, even when I posted it I was thinking of a good way to phrase it, and that was the best I could come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Nah, it's on me, even when I posted it I was thinking of a good way to phrase it, and that was the best I could come up with. Yeah, I've told a couple jokes on here that were taken the wrong way completely. It's easy to misinterpret things on the internet because there's no body language, just words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 What glue though? I would buy some Elmers wood glue and clamp it,after it dries the wood will seperate before the glue will turn lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'd actually send it off to this Youtuber called davey4557. He has tons of repair videos and takes Youtubers guitars and fixes them. Always looking for a challenge, and always doing top notch work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I'd actually send it off to this Youtuber called davey4557. He has tons of repair videos and takes Youtubers guitars and fixes them. Always looking for a challenge, and always doing top notch work as well. GOOD DEAL, hope he fixes it for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just glue it. Don't try a wood peg or dowel. It's too hard to get it to line up. Unless you remove the fingerboard then drill the hole after gluing the two parts together. But... It appears this is how the cello's neck was fabricated in the first place, a separate piece of wood for the heel. Us natural hyde glue, the kind you mix with water, then heat up to get gooey. The liquid stuff in a bottle is not strong enough. Check out Frets.com for a couple treatises on the use of Hyde Glue and finding small quantities of it in the grocery store marked "Knox Gelatin". I used it to re-assemble my old Norlin built Epiphone. That was 6 years ago and it's still holding. In this instruction, you'll find the instructions for mixing hyde glue: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/37812-repairing-a-norlin-era-ft-guitar-with-broken-neck/ Once on that page search for "Knox". Make sure to get the two pieces as perfectly lined up as possible. Then get a serious amount of clamping pressure (protect wood surfaces with cauls). If you get a good glue joint, it should hold until the next time someone bounces this cello down the stair well. KSDADDY fixed a cello that looked worse than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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