jannusguy2 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Maybe a J35? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Gibson-1930s-Acoustic-Guitar-/170891362894?pt=Guitar&hash=item27c9eb424e#ht_500wt_1178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Looks like a 35 to me. Notice the narrow 'gothic' or pick-shaped heel. There is a promise in this guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm betting it's even rarer than a J-35. With the non-slanted logo, the subtle sunburst sides, and that apparent FON, this could be an original 1934 Jumbo, which is as rare as it gets. The tuners, however, might suggest a J-35. It's a roll of the dice here, as you are looking at major restoration cost. If it's an original Jumbo, it's worth doing. If it's a J-35, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, because of the condition, it isn't clear that you could just do simple repairs to turn it into a player. This one would require some soul-searching. Based on the bids, I suspect others are willing to roll the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 I think you may have pegged it, Nick. OJ makes more sense than the 35 now that I think about it. This will be a fun auction to watch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm betting it's even rarer than a J-35. With the non-slanted logo, the subtle sunburst sides, and that apparent FON, this could be an original 1934 Jumbo, which is as rare as it gets. The tuners, however, might suggest a J-35. It's a roll of the dice here, as you are looking at major restoration cost. If it's an original Jumbo, it's worth doing. If it's a J-35, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, because of the condition, it isn't clear that you could just do simple repairs to turn it into a player. This one would require some soul-searching. Based on the bids, I suspect others are willing to roll the dice. Nick , could that even be a TROJAN ??? . really beautiful guitars those trojan and J 35's . JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Nick , could that even be a TROJAN ??? . really beautiful guitars those trojan and J 35's . JC Don't know, JC. I've never actually seen a Trojan. Look at the the photo on page 10 of Fabulous Flat Tops. Except for the lack of Grover tuners, the guitar in the auction looks pretty much just like this, if you look beyond the damage and wear. Note the sunburst sides and the straght (non-angled) logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Out of curiosity, do Gibson ever buy up any of these and restore themselves or do they already have collections of [almost] everything from the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm always intrigued by the 'don't ask me about this guitar 'cause I don't know nuthin' listings. The pics are good though, but that top seems to be caving which would trigger many questions regarding the guts of this big ol' girl. Even if it's a ruse it gets a seller off the hook and leaves the prospective buyer to make a number of assumptions. If I had money and a good luthier shop set up, I'd be bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm always intrigued by the 'don't ask me about this guitar 'cause I don't know nuthin' listings. The pics are good though, but that top seems to be caving which would trigger many questions regarding the guts of this big ol' girl. Even if it's a ruse it gets a seller off the hook and leaves the prospective buyer to make a number of assumptions. If I had money and a good luthier shop set up, I'd be bidding. I don't disagree with you, but there are a lot of unknowns here, like what is under all the duct tape holding the rims together. Based on my experience in several major restorations, including a mid 19th century Martin, I'm guessing you are looking at about a $4K restoration. The trick will be deciding how far to go to try to maintain the look and feel of the vintage guitar, while making the major repairs necessary to turn it into a good player as well as a stable artifact. It could be a neat project, but I'm guessing that the guitar will go for a lot of money even in this condition, based on the bidding so far. The problem is there is no telling how good the guitar will sound once the work is done. It's one thing to have a rare vintage Gibson. It's quite another to have a rare vintage Gibson that plays and sounds great. And, no, I'm not one of the guys bidding. Been there and done that. I'm a player now, not a collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Got to love to gamble....Tis ONLY money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I don't disagree with you, but there are a lot of unknowns here, like what is under all the duct tape holding the rims together. Based on my experience in several major restorations, including a mid 19th century Martin, I'm guessing you are looking at about a $4K restoration. The trick will be deciding how far to go to try to maintain the look and feel of the vintage guitar, while making the major repairs necessary to turn it into a good player as well as a stable artifact. It could be a neat project, but I'm guessing that the guitar will go for a lot of money even in this condition, based on the bidding so far. The problem is there is no telling how good the guitar will sound once the work is done. It's one thing to have a rare vintage Gibson. It's quite another to have a rare vintage Gibson that plays and sounds great. And, no, I'm not one of the guys bidding. Been there and done that. I'm a player now, not a collector. Me either. My bid certainly wouldn't win the auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm betting it's even rarer than a J-35. With the non-slanted logo, the subtle sunburst sides, and that apparent FON, this could be an original 1934 Jumbo, which is as rare as it gets. The tuners, however, might suggest a J-35. It's a roll of the dice here, as you are looking at major restoration cost. If it's an original Jumbo, it's worth doing. If it's a J-35, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, because of the condition, it isn't clear that you could just do simple repairs to turn it into a player. This one would require some soul-searching. Based on the bids, I suspect others are willing to roll the dice. Yes. It's not quite clear from the pictures, but the body seems to have a uniform dept, indicating an Original Jumbo. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tafmutt Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm always intrigued by the 'don't ask me about this guitar 'cause I don't know nuthin' listings. The pics are good though, but that top seems to be caving which would trigger many questions regarding the guts of this big ol' girl. Even if it's a ruse it gets a seller off the hook and leaves the prospective buyer to make a number of assumptions. If I had money and a good luthier shop set up, I'd be bidding. Agree. I'd love to take a mirror and illumination and take a peek at the interior side of where the duct tape sits. MJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Out of curiosity, do Gibson ever buy up any of these and restore themselves or do they already have collections of [almost] everything from the past? No and no. They borrow vintage instruments to study and collect specs on. Or at least Ren did. -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No and no. They borrow vintage instruments to study and collect specs on. Or at least Ren did. -- Bob R Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sold for 7600.00. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Dave Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Out of interest, if it is a rare OJ and properly restored what would it be worth? I'm assuming because it sold for $7600 it must be worth a small fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sold for 7600.00. Wow! Pesos..? There were 27 bidders as well..unbelievable. What comes to mind is that word that came out of the Lebonese Mason's mouth when I ask about he re-pointing our patio wall. He uttered very few words in English.. Predominantly...Yes...No...and this time with a wave of his hand ..Garbeeje. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Out of interest, if it is a rare OJ and properly restored what would it be worth? A Jumbo in nice condition would sell for $20K to $25k. Maybe more, since the prices of J-35s have skyrocketed the last couple of years. -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 A Jumbo in nice condition would sell for $20K to $25k. Maybe more, since the prices of J-35s have skyrocketed the last couple of years. -- Bob R There's a Jumbo on Ebay right now that's been languishing there at a 24K BIN for a couple of months. Looks to be in pretty good shape, too. Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I know Mike Ness has a bunch of J 35's from 1939. they really sound quite nice JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Don't forget, the market aside, there are some special peeps out there with a s'load of disposable income. Sometimes they just grab all the gold bars they can, but it doesn't affect their bottom line. This J might just be another feather in some wealthy (or crazy/wealthy) collector's cap. http://www.robwesley.com/guitars/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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