todde4ever Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hi everyone, i bought a brandnew Gibson J200 Vintage Suburst (2012). I love the guitar a lot but i've got one question and maybe someone of you can give some tipps. The store where i bought the guitar told me that the guitar need to "swing in" because it's new cause no one but the gibson factory guys tested and played the guitar. the tone is brilliant and has a long sustain so far but only the E on 12 fret (Low E-string) and on the 7th fret (A-string) is not as good as every other tone. if i should describe it i would say the tone is very short and not very brilliant. has anyone an idea if this "problem" fades from time time or is it a typical j200 problem?!?! greetings, todde4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 you mean dead spots? dull thud, no ringing out, can happen on new guitars and suddeny stop after a little use, or can persist, it's nothing a decent setup shouldn't sort out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I would also try a new set of strings. Do you still have the original ones on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 . Welcome. And congrats on your new J-200. Give it until your next string change. After the string change, or if you've already changed strings - if it still has the dead spots, then take it to your luthier/shop for a proper setup that includes a fret level check. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Congratulation on the new 200! What the other guys here say is true. You should also consider that the store might not have had proper humidity levels. This time of year, a lot of the country has high humidity. Check it with a hydrometer. Keep her somewhere safe and see what happens. Is there a return period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Check it with a hydrometer. Just in case of a potential Web search, I thought I should note that's "hygrometer". No need to liquify your new guitar! -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Lol. I was typing on my phone. I had a typo and it tried to show how smart it was! I didn't even notice. Stupid modern technology and stupid me! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Lol. I was typing on my phone. I had a typo and it tried to show how smart it was! I didn't even notice. Stupid modern technology and stupid me! Lol Not too embarrassing, as far as autocorrects go. I've certainly had worse! -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Swing in is what we often refer to as break in or open up. It basically means the guitar have to find it self - different components/wood-types needing to vibe together and so forth. It can take time, but is a thrilling process to follow. If you like the 200 now, be glad. Because you haven't heard it yet. Why not throw in a couple of pics – they would be as welcome as yourself. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Give it time and lots of playing, and chances are that any wrinkles such as dead spots etc. will shake themselves out. Slope shouldered guitars are prone, in my experience, to a slightly shy G note on the bottom E (I've experienced it to varying degrees on my AJ, both Mahogany J45s I've owned and my former bandmate's Rosewood J45, worst on my otherwise stunning '94 Early J45, best on my AJ), but I never had a dead spot on my SJ200. I would try different strings, and just play and play it. Guitars need time to wake up or "swing in", and it still thinks it's a tree at the moment! As noted, if you like the tone now, it'll sound like angels playing pinball with the stars in a couple of years' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Welcome and congrats. I love mine!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I would change strings and make sure the saddle is seated in the slot. Every time I get a new guitar I fit a new saddle to it and store away the original. I have a J200 I got about 4 months ago and all the strings sound good and loud. I have noticed some movement with the strings getting just a little higher but I usually wait a few years for a new guitar to settle down. I'm not sure if the belly is rising or the neck is pulling up. Either way it's very minimal and I love it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Did the Shop set up the Guitar for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Did the Shop set up the Guitar for you? No, I like doing my own work. I bought the ivory saddle from David Walther http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=1&sub=8 Then some new pins from Bob Colosi http://www.guitarsaddles.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 J200s are one guitar you have to play to break in.. It will livin up... Ive had many new ones with the same issue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Tonerite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I hold great love and almost awe for the J-200. Was utterly attracted too the model as a youngster, but ran into many a dull ex. up up through the years back then. Guitars that simply didn't fill out their size sound wise, if you know what I mean. Not always the case though. A 1968 taken from a wall in London was amazing, , , so was one played this spring. I'm not past these at all – they will re-arrive in my world at some point. Congrats on yours – does it have the Grover tuners. And have you considered giving the saddle a 12 hour tea-bath to bring the hue a tooth closer to those Colosi's. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todde4ever Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Hi and thanks for your replies! I changed the original strings. definitely no dead-spots! Now i use the elixir strings. the shop manager also told me that it needs time til the sound totally "unfolds". so i should play the guitar a lot and should wait... i love the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todde4ever Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 i'll post some pictures soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drathbun Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Tonerite! LOL. You must be a Scorpio! Turd Disturber! :) Beautiful J200! Congrats to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I hold great love and almost awe for the J-200. Was utterly attracted too the model as a youngster, but ran into many a dull ex. up up through the years back then. Guitars that simply didn't fill out their size sound wise, if you know what I mean. Not always the case though. A 1968 taken from a wall in London was amazing, , , so was one played this spring. I'm not past these at all – they will re-arrive in my world at some point. Congrats on yours – does it have the Grover tuners. And have you considered giving the saddle a 12 hour tea-bath to bring the hue a tooth closer to those Colosi's. . . Does the tea bath work? Never heard of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todde4ever Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 today, i used the aura ellipse pickup system. which presets do you use. there are four factory setups. did you try some else from the software?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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