T Bone Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I hate the metal locks. Used to use them on my Fenders in the 1990s until one day when I was sure one was locked, it let loose in the middle of a song/jam session. I took them off the next day. I've had straps let go and though I usually catch the guitar, I haven't always, and I understand the reason to use them (even more so with necks prone to breaking at the headstock, which Gibsons are much more prone to than Fenders). I prefer the rubber grommet/washer placed over the stock button, and so far have never had one let go. Have them for all my Gibsons, and the Airline. I have some for the Fenders but need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBillyBob1 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If you have a precious guitar and do not install strap locks I have no sympathy for when and if the guitar falls and breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelinguy Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Probably for the best, You can stop frothing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Just yester day I had a Planet Waves strap with locking clips brake while I was putting on my guitar. I caught the guitar.. Planet Waves has discontinued that model, now I KNOW WHY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Haven't toured or played out much have you. Yep, I have seen a few stage disasters in my day as well. There is nothing worse than having to borrow a guitar mid set cause you trashed yours, because you were too cheap, or worried about aesthetics. There IS the exception of vintage/historic/custom, I can see wanting to not molest or modify in these cases. But a Players piece? spend a few bucks, and not have to think about it. A no brainer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyT Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have been watching a lot of the summer festivals on the Palladia channel the past few weeks, and I am even seeing Slash and others use the Strap Locks like I have. At least they look like them. I figure having these on all of my guitars is like auto insurance. You may not need it all the time, but that one time something that may make a non Strap Locked guitar fall off its strap, its good to know yours is protected. If one of my guitars fell to the ground I would slap myself :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 In most cases you can't even see the difference when locking guitar studs have been installed... Just sayin'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 There IS the exception of vintage/historic/custom, I can see wanting to not molest or modify in these cases. These are my players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69tele Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 since i once dropped my washburn n4 years ago (it bounced off the floor !) always fitted either schaller or dunlop straplocks on all my axes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampash Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have schallers on all of my guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 My old vintage guitars were the first ones of mine to get strap locks. When I got my 83 Fender Fullerton P-bass it had Dunlap strap locks already installed. Same goes for my 97 Les Paul Studio. Then one day I was trying to record with my 5 string Squire J-Bass and didn't notice that I had twisted the strap. Off it popped and even my cat like reflexes couldn't keep that heavy monster from bouncing on the newly installed hard wood floor. Then I started thinking about this happening to my Gibson Country Gentleman. That sucker weighs a ton. So I started putting strap locks on all my instruments, cheap and expensive, modern and vintage. No worries. Frankly I think Gibsons higher end models should come with them. I believe the AFD Les Paul and a few others did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Why anyone would NOT use strap locks is beyond my comprehension. I remain astounded by some of the "logic" used by some of this board's members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 My Fender USA Deluxe came from the factory with Schallers installed. I was happy about that. The shop where I do my business knows to put a set in the case before I'll leave the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Haven't toured or played out much have you. In a small band, so no. Still in the "Getting organized" stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 The only reason why a strap-slip happens is because of the shape of the button+the angle of the guitar+the weight+many other factors. The way this could be prevented, is to either not raise your guitar up, or not have it sit at weird angles, or generally not be rough with it. The other way is to take change the shape of a traditional strap lock. I'll draw a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT ED Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Funniest bit is the drum roll headstock repair anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Pardon my paint skills. But if the barbs on a harpoon work well enough to stay in the flesh of an animal, this should stay in the flesh of a guitar strap. It would be roughly the same size, but the different shape would prevent it from being able to slide to the edge of the button. And plus, you don't have to fiddle with a shitty lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I need them, because I am always at weird angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have never had starp-locks on any guitars, and I have played out quite a bit. I have a few habits: for one, being in construction (most of it drywall), I am used to having a tool in my hand and a cord to deal with. So being able to whip the cord out of the way or put it where I want I do almost sub-conciously. In fact, I don't wrap it around the bottom of the strap like most- it feels akward. Another thing, I always have a hand on the guitar, as if to hold it. Taking both hands off and letting it hang on the strap alone feels really unnatural. Having said that, I have dropped a guitar at times. And I have almost always played Strats when playing standing. Strats don't break, you get a dent or scratch unless it is on a rug or carpet. I have played a couple Gibsons a bit, and to be honest I have difficulty because I haven't mastered to tone of them or the controls, but they sure sound GOOD. I don't play out anymore, but if I do again and I was to be using the Gibsons, I would definitely be looking at straplocks or something. Reflexes don't PREVENT a single thing. I dropped an SG at a shop once while testing for 'neck dive'. The only thing reflexes did was cause me to fumble and toss the guitar even more. I could have taken out more than just the guitar I dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have never had starp-locks on any guitars, and I have played out quite a bit. I have a few habits: for one, being in construction (most of it drywall), I am used to having a tool in my hand and a cord to deal with. So being able to whip the cord out of the way or put it where I want I do almost sub-conciously. In fact, I don't wrap it around the bottom of the strap like most- it feels akward. Another thing, I always have a hand on the guitar, as if to hold it. Taking both hands off and letting it hang on the strap alone feels really unnatural. Having said that, I have dropped a guitar at times. And I have almost always played Strats when playing standing. Strats don't break, you get a dent or scratch unless it is on a rug or carpet. I have played a couple Gibsons a bit, and to be honest I have difficulty because I haven't mastered to tone of them or the controls, but they sure sound GOOD. I don't play out anymore, but if I do again and I was to be using the Gibsons, I would definitely be looking at straplocks or something. Reflexes don't PREVENT a single thing. I dropped an SG at a shop once while testing for 'neck dive'. The only thing reflexes did was cause me to fumble and toss the guitar even more. I could have taken out more than just the guitar I dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarusvt84 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I've never used a strap lock in my life. Nor have I ever dropped a guitar. I guess you don't believe in life/health/car/long-term insurance...or in talking, cash-wielding athletic ducks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Pardon my paint skills. But if the barbs on a harpoon work well enough to stay in the flesh of an animal, this should stay in the flesh of a guitar strap. It would be roughly the same size, but the different shape would prevent it from being able to slide to the edge of the button. And plus, you don't have to fiddle with a shitty lock. I like your idea a lot. The traditional strap button makes it harder to put the strap on, than for it to come OFF. It's easier for the strap to come off than for it to go on. Isn't that backwards?? Your new strap button would make it easier to put the strap on, and harder for it to come off. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? I think your idea is brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I like your idea a lot. The traditional strap button makes it harder to put the strap on, than for it to come OFF. It's easier for the strap to come off than for it to go on. Isn't that backwards?? Your new strap button would make it easier to put the strap on, and harder for it to come off. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? I think your idea is brilliant! Pretty much. Basically, it's the same size, only backwards. And mounted the same way. Thanks, though. If I had a proper work shop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaysEpiphone Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 One of the good things about the scarf-joint, in this situation it will be good as new with some glue and the right clamping. It's not an expensive Gibson so not a huge loss if this guy makes a good living he should just get a new Iby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 ...The only reason why a strap-slip happens is because of the shape of the button+the angle of the guitar+the weight+many other factors.... Well, that narrows it down............ The rough 'On-The-Street' price of an R0 in the UK is around £4,000 / $6,400. The rough value of a pair of Schaller straplocks is, therefore, around £4,000 / $6,400............. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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