blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 any of you fellas on the european side of the pond know about truss rod wrenches and where one could be got ? specifically for a j45 , are all gibson acoustics same size ? all i know is that the nut , being american , is imperial and the nearest metric key is close enough to trick you into thinking it fits but is loose enough to strip the nut ? reading the thread about finding a sweet spot by a slight tweak and since i changed to lighter strings i would like a little tweak maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Got mine from Thomann BBG, delivered. Fits all Gibbys, blondes and brunettes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I use various 'allen keys' assuming it is a hex recess head... Often supplied with the guitar Otherwise a good guitar tech will have several to use for work And/or a trawl through the hardware/DIY stores will unveil imp and metric sets thereof... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 hey BBG I was after a wrench/socket a while back. I had the tool from my Yamaha SG2000 which is the correct size with a philips screw driver on the other end.. these are the tools you can order off the internet. I have found though that the correct size spanner, which is an 8 ( I think you will know what I mean ) will do the job just as well if not better. The type I mean are the ones with one end open ended and the other end in a closed circle with grooves to fit the size nut/bolt. I tried all type of sockets ect as my tool broke. and none would fit in the area for truss rod... then I tried the spanner and its perfect.. bit of a tight squeeze but not damaging any wood. These spanners are about 2 to 3 pounds sterling... or you can order the exact tool off internet for about 6/7 pound not including postage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Also all Gibson truss rod nuts are the same size in my understanding... of course there, no doubt will, be exceptions but generally they should all be same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 ah , great , cheers del . my mate has a garage full of tools . didnt think a metric one would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 ah , great , cheers del . my mate has a garage full of tools . didnt think a metric one would do Sound.. obviously make sure the spanner is thin enough to fit in space..I assume one spanner will not fit all.. but you get the picture. Just gave my Bird another tweek after reading Boobby b's thread.... the smallest of tweeks and I may have hit that G spot B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brixa Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Greetings from glasgow. I just bought a t shaped 8mm one from ebay and it turned the singwriter truss no probs. The absolute correct size is imperial 5/16". The 8mm key did the job no poroblems and cost me £3. Contact me thru the site if you wish and i'll send you the sellers i.d. On ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 thanks brixa , i have no trouble getting a metric one , i was just scared to use it in case it was a wrong size . i appreciate the thoughtfulness though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Here's the one that I use on my J-45. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Wrenches/Hex_Truss_Rod_Wrenches.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Although you can adjust the Gibson truss rod nut with a variety of tools--including a small open-end wrench, as some here have described--there is a much greater risk of damaging either the nut or the truss rod recess with these tools. The proper tool is a specially-made thin-walled socket, such as the ones sold by stewmac, mentioned in another answer here. There is much less risk of damage to either the nut or the guitar with this tool. I have seen a number of Gibsons with damaged truss rod nut recesses from using improvised tools, so take the time to get the right tool, even if it means ordering it from a specialist luthier supply source like stewmac. The truss rod nut recess creates a signficant weakness in the headstock/neck transition zone. Don't make it worse by buggering up the recess with the wrong tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Although you can adjust the Gibson truss rod nut with a variety of tools--including a small open-end wrench, as some here have described--there is a much greater risk of damaging either the nut or the truss rod recess with these tools. The proper tool is a specially-made thin-walled socket, such as the ones sold by stewmac, mentioned in another answer here. There is much less risk of damage to either the nut or the guitar with this tool. I have seen a number of Gibsons with damaged truss rod nut recesses from using improvised tools, so take the time to get the right tool, even if it means ordering it from a specialist luthier supply source like stewmac. The truss rod nut recess creates a signficant weakness in the headstock/neck transition zone. Don't make it worse by buggering up the recess with the wrong tool. I don't think any of us would want to damage our Gibsons Nick Here is spanner I use... the cat wanted to show off too. It is a perfect fit and I can not see how it would damage my guitar...unless I was an arse.... If I was to order another tool though I would go for the classic design These seem far less likely to damage any thing than the ones shown on Stewmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't think any of us would want to damage our Gibsons Nick Here is spanner I use... the cat wanted to show off too. It is a perfect fit and I can not see how it would damage my guitar...unless I was an arse.... If I was to order another tool though I would go for the classic design These seem far less likely to damage any thing than the ones shown on Stewmac Sometimes, a box-end wrench like this doesn't fit well into the recess, and you can crush the wood if you aren't careful and turn the nut more than a very small amount before re-setting the wrench. A thin-wall socket like the stewmac one won't slip on the nut, as you are applying compression as you turn. The socket with the handle you show is very similar to the truss rod wrench that Gibson at one time (I believe) supplied with their guitars. Whatever works...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hi, after buying a Gibson SWD Studio EC, I've found this small device (don't remember where it came from!) in my arsenal and it fits perfectly my Gibson truss rod ajusting nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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