ol fred Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Found this this morning, never heard the model number before, certainly have never seen one. Would sure like to hear what kind of magik it holds inside. 1929 HG-24 Gibson H-G-24 02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I could never be mistaken for an expert...but sure seems redundant, don't it? Ya think it's legit? (the F-holes look 'home made' to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol fred Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 I could never be mistaken for an expert...but sure seems redundant, don't it? Ya think it's legit? (the F-holes look 'home made' to me). Certainly appears to be legit. Would love to own it just because of the age and the fact that it's so unusual. http://www.tfoa.eu/the_store/index.php?target=products&product_id=34176 I realize that it's not to be when it says "call for pricing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Certainly appears to be legit. Would love to own it just because of the age and the fact that it's so unusual. http://www.tfoa.eu/t...roduct_id=34176 I realize that it's not to be when it says "call for pricing" If it's legit, it might be worth the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I guess there were HG-20's, HG-22's and HG-24's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It's an HG-24 (Hawaiian), and it's legit, if unusual in both design and construction, with an internal baffle. And yes, that is a beautiful piece of Brazilian on the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It's an HG-24 (Hawaiian), and it's legit, if unusual in both design and construction, with an internal baffle. And yes, that is a beautiful piece of Brazilian on the back! Nick, what's the difference between the 20, 22 & 24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Nick, what's the difference between the 20, 22 & 24? I'm thinking "2" and "4"...... :lol: (Ducking and hiding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm thinking "2" and "4"...... :lol: (Ducking and hiding) I'd say that's odd...but all those numbers are even! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Oops....double post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 . I've seen a pic one of those before . . . I wanna say it was on one of these Gibson forums. I think it was the same type of discussion - is it legit or not. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Nick, what's the difference between the 20, 22 & 24? I have no first-hand experience with these. I'm just repeating the info in "Fabulous Flat-Tops". The HG-24 was apparently the first Gibson to use the new "jumbo" size and shape that we all love, and it had Brazilian back and sides. The HG-22 and HG-20 were slightly smaller, but with a shape that is somewhat similar to the jumbo, according to the photos. The HG-22 and HG-20 had maple back and sides, the HG-22 with a sunburst top, and the HG-20 with an overall solid dark brown finish. According to "...Flat-Tops", even after conversion for Spanish-style rather than Hawaiian-style playing, the tone produced by the guitars never became popular. The unique construction features like the double rim apparently produce more of a Dobro-like sound. Apparently, the construction had to be quite rugged to take the extra tension of Hawaiian tuning, which is higher (therefore more string tension) than standard Spanish tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I have no first-hand experience with these. I'm just repeating the info in "Fabulous Flat-Tops". The HG-24 was apparently the first Gibson to use the new "jumbo" size and shape that we all love, and it had Brazilian back and sides. Interestingly, the grain of that Brazilian back is very similar to that of a little 1870's Martin New Yorker I owned back in the early 1970's. It had developed a bunch of splits slong the convolted grain, which required careful and tedious splicing in numerous places. I didn't appreciate just how difficult that job was for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I have no first-hand experience with these. I'm just repeating the info in "Fabulous Flat-Tops". The HG-24 was apparently the first Gibson to use the new "jumbo" size and shape that we all love, and it had Brazilian back and sides. The HG-22 and HG-20 were slightly smaller, but with a shape that is somewhat similar to the jumbo, according to the photos. The HG-22 and HG-20 had maple back and sides, the HG-22 with a sunburst top, and the HG-20 with an overall solid dark brown finish. According to "...Flat-Tops", even after conversion for Spanish-style rather than Hawaiian-style playing, the tone produced by the guitars never became popular. The unique construction features like the double rim apparently produce more of a Dobro-like sound. Apparently, the constrcution had to be quite rugged to take the extra tension of Hawaiian tuning, which is higher (therefore more string tension) than standard Spanish tuning. So while rare, they may not be desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yes, it's the real deal. From everything I've read, my foggy memory banks immediately pull up "underwhelming tone" as a descriptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayyj Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I had an HG-20 for a few years. It's an interesting sound, with some the bark and projection of a wood bodied dobro but much sweeter. The top on mine was very thing with delicate braces , although the area of top that was actually free to vibrate inside the inner wall was pretty small. It was great for blues and ragtime, and exceptional for slide, but a bit limited as a general purpose instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 So while rare, they may not be desirable. That's the way I would read it. A collector's guitar, rather than a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol fred Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 And....thanks all for the input, guess it's not for me. Even though I'm lucky enough to own a vintage piece, I'm just (almost) a player. Interestingly, since this morning I found another on ebay but can no longer find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57classic Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Interestingly, the grain of that Brazilian back is very similar to that of a little 1870's Martin New Yorker I owned back in the early 1970's. It had developed a bunch of splits slong the convolted grain, which required careful and tedious splicing in numerous places. I didn't appreciate just how difficult that job was for many years. Nick, I would say that back is made of 2 bookmatched sets (4 pieces). Do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Jimmie Rodgers palayed an HG-24. I have played a few of them. They are kinda a guitar inside a guitar. To me they are interesting in that they are the first Gibson jumbo and just kinda odd and different. But not something I would probably use as a daily player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Nick, I would say that back is made of 2 bookmatched sets (4 pieces). Do you agree? That was my first thought, but I'm not sure. In my limited experience, plain sawn Brazilian like this can have funny grain discontinuities that look for all the world like joints, so I just don't know. It should be fairly obvious with an internal examination. I would say the jury is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Here's that ebay one you were looking for, Fred: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-30-Gibson-HG-20-22-Rare-Pre-Jumbo-Player-J-45-J-50-200-Lucas-Smeck-L-0-1-/271051892093?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f1bf3a57d I think JannusGuyRob was keen on it a week or so ago, and had posted the link. Anyhow- I'm glad to hear the not-too-glowing tone reports... that way nobody gets too gassed up over it. [now, maybe if the top could be flattened, the neck reset, baffle removed, bracing redone, and the woods were surgically lightened... Could be the new "Smeck" : ) ! ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The back appears to be three pieces with some cracks. I think that if this were a successful model or design, it wouldn't be so rare today. Sort of like a pocket watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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