Homz Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I have a 1st Run LE Robot and an LP Standard. I love my Standard and wouldn't get rid of it for the world. In fact I plan to give it to my son when I retire it. However, I rarely play the Robot and when I do I just can't find the tone I want. I have been considering a Fender Telecaster American Standard or Delux. It's always been my second favorite guitar. Seems like a great fit to me. The balls of a Gibson LP Standard and the subtle whine of a Telecaster. My wife has forbid any such trade, but I frequently disregard her advice on gear matters. I guess I was wondering what you all think? Should I keep the Robot for perceived future value or get another guitar that will actually get played? P.S. That reflection is me in shorts (not undies) and an Obama shirt.
ninety1vee Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 whats a guitar worth if it aint played? do it (but thats a peavey)
Homz Posted November 28, 2008 Author Posted November 28, 2008 I like the way you think. Maybe I should check out one of those Flying V's. It's been quite some time since I've played one.
ninety1vee Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 love v's mainly the simplicity and comfort (plus the ballsy tone) however, i've noticed that quality control on v's have gone down the drain in recent years. but it is relatively easy to get an older one at a good price
Homz Posted November 28, 2008 Author Posted November 28, 2008 (but thats a peavey) I assume you are talking about my son's funky paint job guitar he named "The Kraken". I know it's not an actual Music Man designed by Leo, but it is an Ernie Ball. At least it says so on the underside of the head stock. I have modified much of it least of which the paint job (done by Doug our bass player at my son's request).
the_HEWC Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Considering that you aren't playing the robot (and who knows how the electronics will age?) I'd change it to a guitar more to my liking if I was you. But really try out the guitar your changing to first so you are sure it matches your requirements. rgrds
RichCI Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I have a 1st Run LE Robot and an LP Standard. I love my Standard and wouldn't get rid of it for the world. In fact I plan to give it to my son when I retire it. However' date=' I rarely play the Robot and when I do I just can't find the tone I want.[/b'] I think you have your answer right there. A guitar that isn't being played isn't doing you any good. I have been considering a Fender Telecaster American Standard or Delux. It's always been my second favorite guitar. Seems like a great fit to me. The balls of a Gibson LP Standard and the subtle whine of a Telecaster. Teles are great guitars; love my 52 RI.
solacematt Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Unless it's a vintage 70's strat I wouldn't. Sounds like whoever gets the robot will kind of have the upperhand and better deal...Fender,bleh. Def check out an older V
Taylor Player Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I am a firm believer that if a guitar is not being played, it should go for something that will. I also love trading guitars and have done quite well in that department. As for a Strat to check out, let me suggest an Eric Clapton Signature Strat... I have a 1995 EC Strat with the Gold Lace Sensor pickups in it. It has the active 25db boost switch that can give you a very realistic Les Paul Growl when played through a good amp. I currently am using and loving it with a Peavey Delta Blues amp. This was a trade for me. I traded a very nice handbuilt acoustic guitar for the Clapton Strat and a Mesa Boogie Sattelite 60 watt amp and then traded the Boogie for the Delta Blues as the Boogie was just too loud for my home use. The combination of the Clapton Strat and the Delta Blues amp is amazing!!! I would think that a Robot Guitar that doesn't get played would be equal to a Signature Strat.... They are pretty sweet.
saintzband Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 You should listen to your wife. A first run of any instrument will likely gain value over time. Even a vintage Ford Pinto is worth more today than it was brand new in the '70's (okay, bad example). Secondly, while strats are great guitars (I have one myself) and they put out a different vibe in terms of wood tone and pickup selection, you're trading apples for oranges. A straight up trade for a strat puts you on the money losing side. LP's cost more so you would be trading for a guitar (and a great one to be sure) for one of less monetary value. If you don't like the robot, swap out pups. and keep the originals to re-install later to keep things vintage. For classic rock sound, the Gibson '57 Classic is a great pup. So is the Duncan JB (SH-4). There are a host of other pups out there so finding "THE sound" may be right around the corner. Just don't trade the cow for a few magic beans, Jack. Finally, if you just can't handle the the vibe of the robot, sell it outright and then buy a strat. You should be able to pocket some coin that way.
RudyH Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Your Robot seems like an expensive paper weight. If you're not using it, then you should get rid of it. I have a Fender Strat and a Gibson 335 and feel very lucky to have them. There are some kinds of music that I use the Strat for, and others that I use the 335 for. They are both equally great guitars.
solacematt Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I am a firm believer that if a guitar is not being played' date=' it should go for something that will. I also love trading guitars and have done quite well in that department. As for a Strat to check out, let me suggest an Eric Clapton Signature Strat... I have a 1995 EC Strat with the Gold Lace Sensor pickups in it. It has the active 25db boost switch that can give you a very realistic Les Paul Growl when played through a good amp. I currently am using and loving it with a Peavey Delta Blues amp. This was a trade for me. I traded a very nice handbuilt acoustic guitar for the Clapton Strat and a Mesa Boogie Sattelite 60 watt amp and then traded the Boogie for the Delta Blues as the Boogie was just too loud for my home use. The combination of the Clapton Strat and the Delta Blues amp is amazing!!! I would think that a Robot Guitar that doesn't get played would be equal to a Signature Strat.... They are pretty sweet. [img']http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd219/lofapco/Strat_strap.jpg[/img] Before I even read what you typed I knew that had to be a rn of the Clapton strat, haha. You know why it actually sounds good right? Because when he designed that strat he wanted to get at least one aspect of it to sound like his SG that he used in Cream.
Taylor Player Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Before I even read what you typed I knew that had to be a rn of the Clapton strat' date=' haha. You know why it actually sounds good right? Because when he designed that strat he wanted to get at least one aspect of it to sound like his SG that he used in Cream. [/quote'] That is exactly why I suggested it for the OP.... It is a great Strat that can get all the Strat quack and chime, but turn that little boost on and roll back the trebil and just listen to the Gibson Growl coming out of a Strat.... Makes my buddies look twice when they hear it. lol...........
solacematt Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 That is exactly why I suggested it for the OP.... It is a great Strat that can get all the Strat quack and chime' date=' but turn that little boost on and roll back the trebil and just listen to the Gibson Growl coming out of a Strat.... Makes my buddies look twice when they hear it. lol........... [/quote'] I spent a few years modding a strat after my favorite players most famous silver bat strat and it only recently came out that he basically just made a few mods to the Clapton strat because he wanted the confortability of a strat but the sound of an SG.
DamienAzrael Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I've got a modded Strat....not done modding the thing either...it's a Highway 1 that I installed and original Floyd Rose on....Eventually I'm gonna wear down the finish and add H-S-H pickup configuration to look like one of the Strats Mick Mars plays....Most Strat users hate my Strat because it's got a humbucker in the bridge...But I like my guitar to sound fuller...So too bad.
Homz Posted November 28, 2008 Author Posted November 28, 2008 I have decided after going to the GC and the Sam Ash that for now I will put the trade on hold. I couldn't get the top dollar I want for the RB. On another point. The Sam Ash guys were great. I almost feel guilty for having spent 10k+ at GC given the manner I was treated while there today. Next time Sam Ash gets first shot.
Tim Plains Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 If it were me, I'd sell it. Try putting it up on craigslist or kijiji. You should be able to sell it and not lose any money...including the taxes you paid. Try it and if it doesn't sell for the price you want, then keep it and try again. That's what I've done and it's worked for me. Then, when you have the money in hand you can go out and buy buy whatever guitar it is you want.
Dynadude Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 I'd def consider a trade or sale, if you're not playing the Robot. Right now would be a good time to do it, before the market has very many floating around. Also, with the holidays coming up, people will be shopping around for gifts. May I enquire what you find different about the Robot, as compared to your other LP? I've never played one, so any insight from an actual owner/player would be great.
Thundergod Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 Man... I hate to say this... but as a rule, trading any gibson for a fender is a good deal. No way to loose there.
Homz Posted November 29, 2008 Author Posted November 29, 2008 May I enquire what you find different about the Robot' date=' as compared to your other LP? I've never played one, so any insight from an actual owner/player would be great.[/quote'] The Robot is housed in a Studio body that's a chambered mahogany body with out the carved maple top and with out the binding on the body. It also has the 498t and 490r pick-ups. The LP Standard has a carved maple top on a mahogany body with binding. It uses the Burstbucker Pro pick-ups. There is no comparing the sound. The LP Standard kicks its ***. I'm biased of coarse, but I think it will kick all other guitar's collective asses.
Thundergod Posted November 29, 2008 Posted November 29, 2008 The LP Standard kicks its ***. I'm biased of coarse' date=' but I think it will kick all other guitar's collective asses. [/quote'] Yes it will (kick any other guitar's ***). But just wait till the resident Custom snob reads this thread...
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