nerts Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I own a 1930s Gibson Advanced Jumbo. I removed the bridge pins and end pin prior to taking the guitar to be repaired--then I managed to lose the pins. I am ordering new pins however I would like to know if the 30s AJs had bone or ivory pins. Anyone have an answer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Always thought plastic (ivoroid) pins were the factory offering. Many here like bone and notice the dif. I couldn't tell between bone and 'tusq'. Except in the price, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jedzep Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 ?????? Martin Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 You should be able to get a straight answer here. Not from me tho, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 The original bridge and end pins would have been made of celluloid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rar Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I am ordering new pins however I would like to know if the 30s AJs had bone or ivory pins. As you've heard, they were plastic -- but a much harder plastic than typical plastic pins today. Antique Acoustics makes replica pin sets. You'd want either these or these, depending on the exact vintage of your guitar. -- Bob R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 As you've heard, they were plastic -- but a much harder plastic than typical plastic pins today. Antique Acoustics makes replica pin sets. You'd want either these or these, depending on the exact vintage of your guitar. -- Bob R Thanks for the links. I've been looking for a source for these but never thought of Elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 The original pins for my 1942 J-45 were bent, so I replaced them with Antique Acoustic replica pins. These pins are very nice! A side note, the originals were made of celluloid, which is extremely flammable. I know this because I almost set my house on fire when trying to heat and bend the original pins back into shape. The first two pins were a success, but the third pin literally blew up in my hand :-) Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 A side note, the originals were made of celluloid, which is extremely flammable. I know this because I almost set my house on fire when trying to heat and bend the original pins back into shape. The first two pins were a success, but the third pin literally blew up in my hand :-) Ain't that the truth. If you want to see how flammable it is set a match to a celluloid pick. They just flash and disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I am quite sure these are original. Both instruments are from 1936 -- AJ and Trojan. Plastic for sure. Best, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvguit Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I am quite sure these are original. Both instruments are from 1936 -- AJ and Trojan. Plastic for sure. Best, -Tom Tom, I feel like I recognize the one on the left. Did it make the front cover of a certain popular book on Gibson flat tops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Tom, I feel like I recognize the one on the left. Did it make the front cover of a certain popular book on Gibson flat tops? They are plastic (celluloid), I have the originals on my 1938 AJ. They yellow , but mine are still functional. The pick guard in the photo is a Gibson Montana one, but the guitar has since been fitted with a firestripepickguards.com James Burkett replica. Tom I believe my 38 Advanced Jumbo has the same "Polliak Electrical & Musical Supply " yellow label as your AJ, they were the South African importer, I'm curious to know if that indeed is the yellow label in your AJ. My FON has a "D" stamp on the neck block for 1938. I found mine in South Africa many years ago and restored it. Here are some photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Oh my, this is getting interesting! Tom, I feel like I recognize the one on the left. Did it make the front cover of a certain popular book on Gibson flat tops? No -- although it is a bit of an iconic guitar, at least to the lunatic fringe that cares about such things. We got the guitar from (the late) Frank Motes of Atlanta Vintage Guitar. He bought it from the son of the original owner -- as I understand it, it was more or less under the bed for years. In the 1990s, Lynn Wheelright wrote an article for Gibson in which he talked about discovering a "new" Gibson model from late 1936 from the entries in the Gibson shipping ledgers -- the Trojan. There was only one entry entry in the ledgers which both identified the guitar as a Trojan and included a FON -- 960B-12. That guitar is 960B-12 -- ie, the only fully documented Trojan -- if you care about such stuff. Tom I believe my 38 Advanced Jumbo has the same "Polliak Electrical & Musical Supply " yellow label as your AJ, they were the South African importer, I'm curious to know if that indeed is the yellow label in your AJ. My FON has a "D" stamp on the neck block for 1938. I found mine in South Africa many years ago and restored it. Hi Alan, We need to talk. I'll send a PM. Best, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Oh my, this is getting interesting! No -- although it is a bit of an iconic guitar, at least to the lunatic fringe that cares about such things. We got the guitar from (the late) Frank Motes of Atlanta Vintage Guitar. He bought it from the son of the original owner -- as I understand it, it was more or less under the bed for years. In the 1990s, Lynn Wheelright wrote an article for Gibson in which he talked about discovering a "new" Gibson model from late 1936 from the entries in the Gibson shipping ledgers -- the Trojan. There was only one entry entry in the ledgers which both identified the guitar as a Trojan and included a FON -- 960B-12. That guitar is 960B-12 -- ie, the only fully documented Trojan -- if you care about such stuff. Hi Alan, We need to talk. I'll send a PM. Best, -Tom Thanks Tom, message received, I've sent you some details, this is the same importer in South Africa as mine from the 1930's. I found mine about 1 1/2 hrs from where I lived in South Africa. Rgds, Alan G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvguit Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Wow! The Gibson Trojan!! That is amazing. I thought that the checking reminded me a lot of the guitar on the front of Fabulous Flat-tops. Upon further review the guitar on the front cover is a '37 J-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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