JPetrucelli Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hi Guys, Here’s a dumb question that I just could not find the answer to and was hoping that I could get your advice on. I went to change the strings on my 2012 Standard last week, and as you know it comes with the Grover locking Rotomatics 502 machine heads. I’ve had locking tuners on several guitars (imports) before, so this is not a new concept to me and I did not give it any real thought. I removed the old strings (one at a time) and lined up the hole in the tuner so it was pretty much straight up and down (12 and 6 position), fed the string thru and tightened up the thumb wheel and tuned to pitch. By about the 4th string, I noticed that the new string was only wrapping around the post about ½ to ¾ of the way. Is this normal for the Grover tuners or did I do it wrong? I did not pull the new strings very taught when I put them on, but they were not floppy loose either. The guitar stays in tune perfectly so it’s not a big deal, but I was just curious as to what the consensus on the proper restringing procedure was. As always, thank you for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hi Guys, Here’s a dumb question that I just could not find the answer to and was hoping that I could get your advice on. I went to change the strings on my 2012 Standard last week, and as you know it comes with the Grover locking Rotomatics 502 machine heads. I’ve had locking tuners on several guitars (imports) before, so this is not a new concept to me and I did not give it any real thought. I removed the old strings (one at a time) and lined up the hole in the tuner so it was pretty much straight up and down (12 and 6 position), fed the string thru and tightened up the thumb wheel and tuned to pitch. By about the 4th string, I noticed that the new string was only wrapping around the post about ½ to ¾ of the way. Is this normal for the Grover tuners or did I do it wrong? I did not pull the new strings very taught when I put them on, but they were not floppy loose either. The guitar stays in tune perfectly so it’s not a big deal, but I was just curious as to what the consensus on the proper restringing procedure was. As always, thank you for your help! maybe not helpful, but I have spertzels on my strat plus, you pull them taught, and lock em, and tune up. The result is very little string wraps around the post with these, and that is totally NORMAL (for spertzels anyway). The user guide for the Strat indicated this was the proper way to string them. would it be safe to assume grovers would implement a similar concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hi I own this setup and its very useful as theirs less weight at the headstock. To fit new strings ensure the bridge & saddle bolts are tight using the allen key (so they don't fall off) # rotate the round screw heads on the back of the tuners until they release the strings and remove each string (using wire cutters as required) # Then add the strings from left to right starting with the Think E, then A and D, then Thin E, B & G ** The best method I found is to PULL the string tought to the neck by the hole and bend it 90*s and then bolt into place using the rear circle screw * For non locking screws this is also possible but it requires an additional 90* bend in an "S" shape to help lock it in place and then wind up ONLY REMOVE THE EXCESS when your happy (But leave a tad extra on the Thin E string as it can pop) # Using the Locking tuners is very clean but you have to ensure to tighten up all the strings before removing their excess. Happy restring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBillyBob1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Having way less than a full rotation on locking tuners is way OK. The locking tuners on my 2012 LP Standard is the first experience I have had with this type of tuner and I love it. Makes string changes way fast and easy. I replaced the non locking 14:1 Grovers on my Midtown to Planet Waves Auto Trim tuners (18:1) and they work the same way with the added benefit of them cutting the string while tuning up. This saves still another step. How long they last without failing is the only issue I do not have a clue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPetrucelli Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Hi Guys, Thanks for the info, it’s really appreciated! Sounds like I'm doing it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibSinCity Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hi I own this setup and its very useful as theirs less weight at the headstock. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 :huh: String weight... The actual locking mechanic is part of the tuner and doesn't weight much more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibSinCity Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Yeah. Any idea what the length of guitar strings that would need to wrap around the posts actually weighs? I just don't think it would be significant enough to be noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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