groovadelic Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 So I posted recently about my experience with rosewood and bone saddles on my newly acquired '67 Bird. Someone wanted some pic so here are some glam shots. Enjoy! That last one is now my desktop wallpaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 So I posted recently about my experience with rosewood and bone saddles on my newly acquired '67 Bird. Someone wanted some pic so here are some glam shots. Enjoy! That last one is now my desktop wallpaper! Nice! I see your '67 doesn't have the screwed-on pickguards that seemed to show about right around then. Cool! Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Is it the original pickguard? seems in great condition compared to the visible age of the guitar and the battlescars. Plenty character, looks great. Hope you get many happy years from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Wonderful atmophere to this guitar. The guard is the original, , , , and one of my favorites when it comes to H-birds – talkin' fade and color here. . . . Hey you didn't share the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovadelic Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Thanks guys - yeah, original pickguard that I had to remove, flatten, and reglue. I can see why Gibson decided to bolt it down, they probably got complaints that the celluloid would shrink and lift. I have some more pics including the headstock on my work laptop that ill post, but I have decided that the work computer is staying powered off tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 wow that's as good as it gets for me =) JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon S. Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Congrats!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Very attractive vintage Bird, love it. Will you get that cracked fixed, it looks pretty significant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Well i realize now THATS how a Hummingbird pick guard is supposed to look.. aged and fade,,,d's shes a beaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Great looking example with battle scars and all! This is the look we speak of when we talk "vintage Hummingbirds". Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Well i realize now THATS how a Hummingbird pick guard is supposed to look.. aged and fade,,,d's shes a beaut Agree - and this thread should be seen as a oppotunity to praise the long gone German panzer paint. Gone and gone, , , it is right there after 45 years - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovadelic Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Very attractive vintage Bird, love it. Will you get that cracked fixed, it looks pretty significant ? I did glue it back with hide glue and will put in cleats soon. As far as aesthetics... will probably leave it . Whoever owned it prior did not take care of it and so the lacquer has discolored around it. Just a battle scar now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Agree - and this thread should be seen as a oppotunity to praise the long gone German panzer paint. Gone and gone, , , it is right there after 45 years - Indeed Eminor7 there is also something else about the original guards of these lovely guitars The dark swirls I have noticed in this and other examples... they give another aspect to the beauty of the whole. I hold to my idea that its not just the paint that is different from todays guards. My design is gone.. but I actually love the look of my Bird now.... and as stated many a time.. a heavy hand will wear away any paint..Panzer or not Thom Yorks recent clips being a cool example lovely example Groove.. can we get a sound clip ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 The dark swirls in the guard is glue showing through the plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 The dark swirls in the guard is glue showing through the plastic. Hmmmm ? Interesting....... Groovadelic says he removed the guard then re affixed... were these dark marks left on the body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yes....What a beaut! I would not change a thing......Xcept...I noticed the binding missing from the 'tail-end' of the fingerboard....Not bad, but would add that 'finished-look' to a gorgious vintage speciman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yes....What a beaut! I would not change a thing......Xcept...I noticed the binding missing from the 'tail-end' of the fingerboard....Not bad, but would add that 'finished-look' to a gorgious vintage speciman I knew there was something distracting my eye there..... I too would have this done..and leave the battle scar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovadelic Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Headstock - the lacquer has yellowed quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The headstock inlay at that time may be "mother of toilet seat", which is quite yellow right out of the box. It looks just fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Groovadelic says he removed the guard then re affixed... were these dark marks left on the body Glue residue. Nearly impossible to remove. You see it on many translucent guards, including J-200. Nothing magical, just beads of glue :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Glue residue. Nearly impossible to remove. You see it on many translucent guards, including J-200. Nothing magical, just beads of glue :) Thanks, there is something magical in there for me tho :)..... I wonder if modern examples will age thus ? A recent post by Eminor7 of a 10 yr old..it seems proto type for the HB TV, this is not the case ? http://www.ebay.com/...=item416d629411 I know photos can be decieving.... I still think the actual material of the vintage guards are not exactly the same as modern ? or could it be the glue used is differnt and actually makes the guard look darker somehow ? maybe I'm just missing the fact of what 40 odd years can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Everything is probably different - wood, finish, glue, plastic. Here's another old guard with glue beads. Vintage J-200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I like the black whirls too. Glue or guard, would be fine to know. What I'd also like to know is whether the sound changed without the guard . A big issue on these pages some months ago and a theme discussed and disagreed upon here and there on the web. I just put an extra very thin upper guard on my HD-28V and kept it there for 2 days. It stole away the deep E and dampened the A as well (E just more). Was driven a bit mad as I removed those 2 strings in the process and therefore wondered if loosening them and retuning played a role. Absolutely NO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Everything is probably different - wood, finish, glue, plastic. Here's another old guard with glue beads. Vintage J-200. haha..well yea the reason I bring up the fact that I think the modern pg's are not made out of the same material is: I'm sure I read here in one of the many threads on the HB guards that they ARE made out of the same material... and I have pondered on it. What are they made of... I think someone said a type of cellulose, or am I getting it all wrong? Wood is wood right? I mean obviously there is more to it than that, but sika spruce whether 1960's or 2012.. is going to have the same molecular make up ..no ? Nitrocellulose finish.... would this not be the same also ? I mean nitrocellulose is nitrocellulose ..right ? or am I wrong ? so the glue........ this could be different.. and maybe turns black over 40 years.. if indeed this what the swirls are? Sorry to question your statement 527.. I mean no disrespect... the swirls on many many examples ..look so much part of the guard and so artistic I mean is your statement a given fact..or a theory ? It seems like a good reason for the dark magical swishes and swirls.. for sure. groovadelic didn't answer whether the marks where indeed on the body.. wouldn't you need to completely clean the body to re attach the guard... maybe/does the glue stain the body...? All I know is you see no glue on the modern examples..only air pockets..which could turn darker over time ...... Hmmmm ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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