RS1976 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 brand spakin new with some tootsie rolls yea? Nea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I am envy on you guys, overseas, for the cheap prices! Wish it wasn't black-back, tough. Ah, nevermind! It's great anyways for this money. :) Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblooded Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 brand spakin new with some tootsie rolls yea? Nea? New gear at less than used gear prices!!! Or how about, Real Gibson USA Quality at Epiphone prices!!! What's not to love? If it were a 60's tribute with a vintage burst finish, i'd be on the phone (not a fan of the 50's neck myself). I had that pickup arrangement in a Flying V and the tone was sweet, hot and nasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Remember, you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Remember, you get what you pay for. That's so true ..after multiple penicillin shots, stolen wallets and lost rings I came to the conclusion that I should get the more high class hookers instead!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=les+paul+guitar&sb=high2low¶ms=eyJkaW1lbnNpb24iOnsiQnJhbmQiOlsiNDI5NDk2NzIzOCIsIjQyOTQ5NjcyMzMiLCI0Mjk0OTY3MjAzIl0sIkNhdGVnb3J5IjpbIjExOTEiXX19 But look at this page. $7k for a combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=les+paul+guitar&sb=high2low¶ms=eyJkaW1lbnNpb24iOnsiQnJhbmQiOlsiNDI5NDk2NzIzOCIsIjQyOTQ5NjcyMzMiLCI0Mjk0OTY3MjAzIl0sIkNhdGVnb3J5IjpbIjExOTEiXX19 But look at this page. $7k for a combo? Here it is at MF http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/marshall-1962-bluesbreaker-combo-amp/482795 Why the difference? The ultimate rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 The difference is one is the 50th with gold plating. The other is not. Shutting down the line and re tooling for the 50th run series didn't come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 That's so true ..after multiple penicillin shots, stolen wallets and lost rings I came to the conclusion that I should get the more high class hookers instead!.. Tru dat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1976 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Remember, you get what you pay for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Knpc3qYk0 if you're implying that guitars that are more affordable are somehow inferior, or a reflection of workmanship, kindly dig this. any guitar is only as good as what a player brings to it. This young lady can perform a very respectable Mr Crowley from start to finish on a Melody Maker... still, I am curious how sweetwater can afford to sell gibbys that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Knpc3qYk0 if you're implying that guitars that are more affordable are somehow inferior, or a reflection of workmanship, kindly dig this. any guitar is only as good as what a player brings to it. This young lady can perform a very respectable Mr Crowley from start to finish on a Melody Maker... still, I am curious how sweetwater can afford to sell gibbys that low. What you say is true. However, that guitar would last about two months of my time out of the house. I've tried a few of them in the stores, most of the parts would fall off in the middle of about the 5th Freebird it ever got to do. I think that is where You Get What You Pay For comes in. Sweetwater is selling them that low because they are buying them that low, so the question is more for Gibson. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1976 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Sweetwater is selling them that low because they are buying them that low, so the question is more for Gibson. rct Excellent point!! Dear Gibson... why are you selling your LPs so low to SW? just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Knpc3qYk0 if you're implying that guitars that are more affordable are somehow inferior, or a reflection of workmanship, kindly dig this. any guitar is only as good as what a player brings to it. This young lady can perform a very respectable Mr Crowley from start to finish on a Melody Maker... still, I am curious how sweetwater can afford to sell gibbys that low. Those Gibsons are made to be affordable, because of the cost of making them. They use lower grade wood and materials. Put on your thinking cap before you make such silly arguments using a player's talent as example. We are talking about why these Les Pauls are priced lower than most other LP models. You don't need a business degree to do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The specs of these guitars allow quick production, no binding, not many layers of paint, less drying time, no buffing, less drying/curing time. Not to mention lesser grade wood, more pieces,less matching, etc. I think they are a fantastic deal for the money. Funny thing is that 99% of the time most people complain about Gibson prices and this thread is asking why these guitars are so cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblooded Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Those Gibsons are made to be affordable, because of the cost of making them. They use lower grade wood and materials. Put on your thinking cap before you make such silly arguments using a player's talent as example. We are talking about why these Les Pauls are priced lower than most other LP models. You don't need a business degree to do the math. I agree with you 100% Big Bill. I was also wondering why some of you would post that these would have inferior build quality. They obviously are stripped down in features and finish, and some lower cost components than the high end models, but they all have the Gibson name and USA build quality. Add to it that we're in a soft economy, Gibson recently lowered prices on many models by an average of about $300, and perhaps did a deal with Sweetwater to do a special run on these to lower the cost, and that would seem more logical an answer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1976 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Those Gibsons are made to be affordable, because of the cost of making them. They use lower grade wood and materials. Put on your thinking cap before you make such silly arguments using a player's talent as example. We are talking about why these Les Pauls are priced lower than most other LP models. You don't need a business degree to do the math. duly noted big bill. I just see affordable gibby's and wonder if people felt this way about the Les paul Juniors that came out back circa 1959. Anyhow, I aim not to make silly arguments. Just noticing that a response of 'you get what you pay for' is too easily associated with a buyer beware sensibility that the guitar i refer to is sub par. Nice axe either way. still, a melody maker made with lower grade woods in the hands of a talented young lady with skill is more wicked than a $2,800 Les paul in the hands of a player with more money than talent. happy halloween! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 1351704544[/url]' post='1276323']That's so true ..after multiple penicillin shots, stolen wallets and lost rings I came to the conclusion that I should get the more high class hookers instead!.. Or become one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sorry but this is a better deal. I still love my Gibsons, but a "lower" quality PRS is much better than a "lower" quality Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongoscot Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I got my Melody Maker on sale for $299 and I consider it to be the best value I have ever gotten on a guitar. Sure, the materials are not hand picked high end quality, but they are good and the build quality is top notch. Nice thing about it is that I dont cry when I bang the edge of a table carrying it through the house. I would probably be hesitant to buy a guitar on the lower end by mail order though but I understand Sweetwater is pretty good about making sure you are satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Are you guys seriously looking for reasons to complain about good looking, quality, American made Gibson guitar at affordable prices? If this one had P-90s I would have ordered it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Are you guys seriously looking for reasons to complain about good looking, quality, American made Gibson guitar at affordable prices? For myself, no, I wasn't complaining when I thought I was making sense of the words You Get What You Pay For. Many many peoples look at guitars from the context of their own homes and have no idea the perils of taking them out for several hours a night, several nights a week, for years on end. Many peoples do not understand that you start banging on cymbals and knocking over beers and monitors and that's not even including what the dancing fools do it is a dangerous world, and the better put together yer guitar is the better for you. Sure, low price Gibsons are great, I agree. Great for starting out kids, great for people that don't have to move them very far in order to use them. If yer getting paid well to do a very specific thing, I don't believe they are, any more or less than any other "budget" guitar, to be relied upon. Just my experience is all. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I agree that you get what you pay for. These Les Pauls have cheaper finishes that require no buffing, the wood isn't figured so they paint it over and they have no binding. I don't agree that they are some how less likely to survive cymbal assaults or heavy touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm not complaining either. I think some of the folks feel they are getting a $2300 Les Paul for $800. Most of us know that these 50s tributes came out a couple years ago. Most folks were on a waiting list to get theirs, the demand was huge. I know some that took advantage of that price and bought two. Some were disappointed when their guitars arrive. They were expecting more than what they are. Although this is a great price for a Gibson Les Paul, don't expect it to be the quality of the Studios and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 To be clear, I'm referring to the Melody maker thingy the kid is using in the vid, the one that is supposed to be the measure of how good a guitar it is because the kid using it makes it sound so good. That there is junk that you truly do get what you pay for. The cheap Les Paul on sale is a pretty nice deal for the makings of a gigging guitar, I could definitely take that if I was in need of a les Paul. I'm not, mines been through a lot and still kicking, cymbals, beers, dancers and all. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRIDER Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=les+paul+guitar&sb=high2low¶ms=eyJkaW1lbnNpb24iOnsiQnJhbmQiOlsiNDI5NDk2NzIzOCIsIjQyOTQ5NjcyMzMiLCI0Mjk0OTY3MjAzIl0sIkNhdGVnb3J5IjpbIjExOTEiXX19 But look at this page. $7k for a combo? Here it is at MF http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/marshall-1962-bluesbreaker-combo-amp/482795 Why the difference? The ultimate rip off. You need to compare apples to apples. Sweetwater and MF are the same price for the same amp. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1962/ BTW: That is a great deal on any LP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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