Trouble in Australia Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I've seen heaps of videos about Chinese fakes on youtube and how they are getting closer and closer to being Gibson clones. I've even seen one recently where they've got the fret 'nibs' done like Gibson. What is Gibson doing about this? Sure the company might be getting extra dollars on parts from those upgrading the fakes but it is downgrading the name since everyone will think Gibson - that is crap less than even Ibanez. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmis Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Since when is Ibanez crap? I own Gibsons, Fenders and Ibanezs, and i can say after 35 years of playing those Gits that Ibanez guitars is in no way worse than Gibson or Fender guitars. Different, yes, but crappy, noway! That´s my thought :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The fakes are not any closer or better than they were, just a little different. As a "run" or period of producing fakes usually produces a few tell-tale signs that the non-expert can use to tell the difference, it becomes known what to look for easily. As the forgers learn what these are, they change them to help the average person from using them to spot them as fakes, then another set of clues are found and used. It is just a cycle. The guitars still don't get better or closer to a real Gibson. In many ways, they are worse because they also learn how to build them cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What both the previous members have said. Firstly : Ibanez is, in their own right (and deservedly so), a highly respected maker of fine instruments. Secondly : When I was 10 years old I had a copy of a Cezanne painting on my bedroom wall. It knew, of course, it was a copy. It looked like (a 2-dimensional copy of) the Cezanne but, equally, I also knew it wasn't the real painting. Same with Les Pauls. There ARE some replicas of '59 'bursts out there which would even fool some experts. Typically they sell for around $15,000 - $20,000. If you are an 11-y-o then you probably wouldn't fully appreciate the difference between a Les Paul and the regular sort of Chinese copy. If you are older then you should be so able. BTW, I'm not saying good music could not be produced on a cheap copy. But that's a whole different discussion. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I've seen heaps of videos about Chinese fakes on youtube and how they are getting closer and closer to being Gibson clones. I've even seen one recently where they've got the fret 'nibs' done like Gibson. What is Gibson doing about this? Sure the company might be getting extra dollars on parts from those upgrading the fakes but it is downgrading the name since everyone will think Gibson - that is crap less than even Ibanez. Thoughts? I've seen one of these Chinese 'Fibsons' in a pawnshop in Guelph, ON. I had to take a second look. The price was in the six hundred dollar range for a guitar that looked like a Gibson Supreme, but ... there's differences. And it doesn't sound any where near what a guitar claiming to be a Gibson Supreme should be. Those knockoffs are clever, it looked like a real Gibson. The price was a giveaway and when I asked the salesperson he admitted it wasn't a real Gibson. I don't think it's legal here to possess counterfiet goods. The fake didn't even justify the six hundred dollar tag, the copies can be found online for less than two hundred dollars. Be wary, these Chinese knockoffs are not good replicas, they're just look a likes, looks only. I'm sure if you looked inside the wiring would be cheap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hello! They are not even in the same shooting range with a real Gibson. Even tough, those I have seen have really good built quality, they are made of cheap wood, and most of them have Epiphone hardware. Soundwise they are awful: despite of wax-potting they feedback even played clean, which is due to bad quailty wiring. In my opinion they do not worth what they are sold for. For that money You can buy a real nice Ibanez! Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markini Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hello! They are not even in the same shooting range with a real Gibson. Even tough, those I have seen have really good built quality, they are made of cheap wood, and most of them have Epiphone hardware. Soundwise they are awful: despite of wax-potting they feedback even played clean, which is due to bad quailty wiring. In my opinion they do not worth what they are sold for. For that money You can buy a real nice Ibanez! Cheers... Bence A friend purchased a 'Blueburst' Chinese LP custom copy, with Gibson logo, serial # and all ( the fakes appear to all use the same serial number over and over). The guitar is good build quality and really a nice looking burst finish. He paid $340 total including shipping from China. It is a heavy guitar about 12 lbs or more. It plays pretty good, the tone is ok, not great. It likes to be over driven. But compared to my Classic Custom or 60s Tribute LP, it is not in the same league. The electronics are low quality. I would compare it to a mid range Epiphone LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 A friend purchased a 'Blueburst' Chinese LP custom copy, with Gibson logo, serial # and all ( the fakes appear to all use the same serial number over and over). The guitar is good build quality and really a nice looking burst finish. He paid $340 total including shipping from China. It is a heavy guitar about 12 lbs or more. It plays pretty good, the tone is ok, not great. It likes to be over driven. But compared to my Classic Custom or 60s Tribute LP, it is not in the same league. The electronics are low quality. I would compare it to a mid range Epiphone LP. "( the fakes appear to all use the same serial number over and over)." The poor genuine Gibson with that real serial number :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibson viking Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 A friend purchased a 'Blueburst' Chinese LP custom copy, with Gibson logo, serial # and all ( the fakes appear to all use the same serial number over and over). The guitar is good build quality and really a nice looking burst finish. He paid $340 total including shipping from China. It is a heavy guitar about 12 lbs or more. It plays pretty good, the tone is ok, not great. It likes to be over driven. But compared to my Classic Custom or 60s Tribute LP, it is not in the same league. The electronics are low quality. I would compare it to a mid range Epiphone LP. I disagree.......you said the fake guitar " likes to be over driven " I think all these fake guitars should be DRIVEN OVER.......Preferably with a D8 Bulldozer or a John Deere 9630 with triples pulling a Degleman Protill Disc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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