Rabs Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 So ive been working on this video.. Its of a gig I went too a couple of weeks ago (the drummer is a good friend of mine)... And what happened was that the last gig they did I just took some footage of it and stuck it up on Youtube, well just cos I do that as a hobby.. The band really liked it, so this time around they put me in touch with their photographer who wanted to try and make a proper video out of it and film it from different angles etc.... Now ive done video editing professionally before for the BBC (many years ago now) but this was the first time I tried to film a whole gig like that and have multiple angles to work from.. And more to the point the first time I had tried to organise to shoot it properly. What we did was have two static camera angles (which one was totally off lol) and then both me and him went around taking smaller close up shots by hand and some stills etc.. So what have I learned this time around.. That if you take multiple shots to edit together that youd better make sure they all shoot film at the same frame and bit rate... cos ive had many technical issues when trying to export that. 2, I need a new camera, one of the ones I used was my old Sony compact that has 720p recodring, but is getting old now which you can see from the picture (the static side angle). 3, make sure you get a decent sound source cos I had to edit the sound I had quite alot too get anything decent from it... And 4, auto focus is annoying.. so many shots ruined by that so either turn it off (if you can), or get a better camera Why am I even doing all of this.. Cos well ive always loved filming and editing, and because im hoping that if I get good enough I can start charging for it (here we are again with the free work thing, but I did this for my friend as much as anything in this case). Anyway.. See what you reckon.. I dont expect anyone to watch the whole thing if at all lol but a good track to go for is Revol (manic street preachers cover) which is at about 18:13... And I know its not perfect (far from it), but I think thats mostly down to the blurry bits than the edit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2fvmkSbgKQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 GOOD JOB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 GOOD JOB... Cheers man :) so when can I come out and film your next gig :P :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is what you should be doing Rabs....go on!!! You'll get money and a name eventually if you just do it. You can film my boring jazz gig any time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 This is what you should be doing Rabs....go on!!! You'll get money and a name eventually if you just do it. You can film my boring jazz gig any time! Thanks for saying that man.. Its much appreciated.. Id love to get into it more.. Just need to make some new contacts. And id come film anything if someone wants :) (assuming the are near enough :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Great job, sir! You've certainly got a knack for it! Will your editing or production software allow for varying the transitions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Great job, sir! You've certainly got a knack for it! Will your editing or production software allow for varying the transitions? Thank you kind sir :) And yes it will (I have Premiere Pro and Final Cut).. I would have done more on the edit and am capable of using effects and doing split screens and stuff BUT the singer whos band it is has told me that he wasnt happy with the sound that night (cos the other guitarists guitar was louder than his and slightly out of tune at points LOL how typical is that).. So even though he liked the edit he may only use one or two tracks for any promotional purposes. If hed really been happy with it I would have done a second pass edit and changed things up a bit more.. (which I may do anyway cos its always good to practice these things). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaysEpiphone Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well, its interesting but the sound is not that good at all, just being honest here Rabs. I just use a single static point of view camera and take the audio off of that. There are some tools/techniques that every audio guy needs to have a good grasp on and I believe that is where you should start learning. My one camera is a 2007 Sony mini tape media Handycam, it's all about placement for single point of view tracking/shoot and then those basic tool's for processing have to be used correctly for a "good sound". The video from a single static angle is boring but the sound will work out for the best this way. And a syncro would solve your frame rate trouble's, I'd just use like camera's and be done with it as that would be the easy way to do it. Good luck buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well, its interesting but the sound is not that good at all, just being honest here Rabs. I just use a single static point of view camera and take the audio off of that. There are some tools/techniques that every audio guy needs to have a good grasp on and I believe that is where you should start learning. My one camera is a 2007 Sony mini tape media Handycam, it's all about placement for single point of view tracking/shoot and then those basic tool's for processing have to be used correctly for a "good sound". The video from a single static angle is boring but the sound will work out for the best this way. And a syncro would solve your frame rate trouble's, I'd just use like camera's and be done with it as that would be the easy way to do it. Good luck buddy! Thanks for the honest opinion.. I appreciate it.. And yeah I know that the sound wasnt great. I did actually take my Boss Mini 4 track along with a proper mic to plug into it.. But encountered two issue with that.. A, I think that most mics need an active power source to record properly (which I think the get from the PA system ususally). I think (not sure about that) and B, as i havent used the 4 track in that way I didnt realise that it adds a reverb to the channel as its usually used for intruments.. So that was a bust.. I did actually ask the sound guy there if I could plug it into his mixing desk but he didnt want to do that (which was my first idea).. In the end I did use a soundtrack from just one of the cams but it wasnt great so messed with it a bit to pump the bass up.. But also the sound guy on the night wasnt so good (as the singer has said to me, he wasnt that happy)..so theres not too much I could have done which is a shame as the footage wont get used much.. he said he may use one or two tracks on his Facebook or Myspace but thats all.. But hey, I learn quick, and each time I do this I will get better... And if only I could afford to buy some new cameras.. My one i getting very old now.. But thats not gonna happen till I get a job :) So apart from the sound.. what do you think of the actual edit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaysEpiphone Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'd keep the footage and ditch the sound-track you can always edit good sound in later if/when you get it right. To tell you the truth I've never found anything that Boss made to have any sonic quality at all so that maybe where your bad sound came from. Stick to the old reliable brand's if you want usable result's and if you really want to learn about this recording thing book yourself in a working studio and just spend some time Q & Aing with the guy who's been doing it for a living for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'd keep the footage and ditch the sound-track you can always edit good sound in later if/when you get it right. To tell you the truth I've never found anything that Boss made to have any sonic quality at all so that maybe where your bad sound came from. Stick to the old reliable brand's if you want usable result's and if you really want to learn about this recording thing book yourself in a working studio and just spend some time Q & Aing with the guy who's been doing it for a living for a while. Well (even though it may not seem so) I was actually an assistant sound engineer in my life before computer games.. So I actually know a fair bit.. In this case I just hadnt planned very well, I should have tested it properly before hand.. I really thought id be able to plug it into the mixing desk on the night but the sound engineer was pretty crap and didnt want to let me.. So yes next time I will be way more prepared.. And for home guitar recording that Boss recorder I have is amazing.. Sounds crystal clear.. Just not with an active mic pluged into it.. All of which I sort of knew but had forgotten.. When I realised what I did it was a proper DOH! moment :) Next time ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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