Symore Duncan's on a Les Paul?

[daveinspain]

As some of you know I am putting together the components for my Project Les Paul... I ordered a Jimmy Page wiring kit for the Push Pull Coil split and phase change... So now I need pupps. Tim and a couple other guys suggested Symore Duncan pupps so I went by a music store today and was talking to the tech there... He suggested the JB (Jeff Beck) SH-4 for the neck pick up and the Duncan Distortion SH -6 for the bridge pick up. Both of those come with 4 leads so they will work sith the JP wiring kit... SD alsom makes a Jimmy Page custom shop pick up set that I would love to use but I cant get it here in Spain :-( Anyone hve experience with the SH-4 and SH-6 SD pupps... Any other suggestions? Will Gibson special order a 4 lead pick up? Someone else said 57 classics wire up for coil split and Phase change would be good too. I wish I could get Gibson Jimmy Page 4 lead pupps.... That would be sweet!

[FennRx]

gibson told me no dice on the special orders. you CAN get four lead 496-500 ceramics aftermarket. these are the same pickups that went into the 1st JP sig from the 90s (not the good CA model)

[Boston004681]

I don't have any experience building guitars but seymour duncans are supposed to be good. I hear Slash uses 'em but a lot of times thay just say that kind of stuff just to sell pickups.

[FennRx]

btw, where did you buy the push-pull kit? if you got it from stew-mac, send it back....its sucks total ***.

[ninety1vee]

all aftermarket gibby pups come w/ 4 leads, just not the originals on our axes

[daveinspain]

btw' date=' where did you buy the push-pull kit? if you got it from stew-mac, send it back....its sucks total ***.[/quote']

 

No i ordered the components from RS Guitarworks and they are going to pre wire the parts for me... High quality parts! I looked at the Stew-Mac and though the whole kit for $48 would be crap...

[lpdeluxe]

I have Seymour Duncans in my '70 Deluxe. It sounds as though no one has checked out their website, which has sound clips of their pickups (clean neck, clean bridge, distorted neck, distorted bridge) which makes it a lot easier to zero in on what you want than going by hearsay.

 

For what it's worth, out of 3 basses and 2 electrics, only my '00 335 Dot does NOT have SDs...and the last bass I traded off had SDs also. I really like the sound.

[FennRx]

all aftermarket gibby pups come w/ 4 leads' date=' just not the originals on our axes[/quote']

 

not according to Benton Cummings. i asked him directly and he referred me here:

http://www.gibson.com/Service/PUPwiring.pdf

 

per Gibson Customer Service, 57 Classics are not available in 4 lead.

not that it means anything, but the chuckleheads at GC told me they had no 4 lead 57 Classics or BBs in their computer system, but did have the ceramics and 490/498

[SRV-Zeppelin]

Well Dave, if you really have your heart set on Jimmy Page PUs but can't get them in Spain, why don't you have Flight or AS90 order a pair and mail them to you? I don't imagine shipping from the UK would be too much.

[djroge1]

I have a Seymour in my home built strat. It's a single coil size humbucker and it sounds pretty good - I think it's their 59. They make good stuff.

 

I would look at Semour Duncan P-Rails because of versitility - Humbucker, P-90, and Single coil sounds out of one pick-up. However, it sounds like you're searching for something JP would normally play so perhaps that's not the pup for you.

 

I bought my push/pull pots from StewMac, but it wasn't their kit. Their kit is only for cutting one coil or something like that. I just bought 4 push/pulls and tried 2 different wiring schems - I first tried Seymour Duncans then I went with DiMarzio's plan. They both supposedly do the same thing, but there is something lacking (or I don't like) about each one. I'm about to re-wire it again using the one from guitarelectronics.com. I have a friend who works at the PRS factory and he used this plan and said it is good.

[Cruznolfart]

Here's a site that has piqued my interest. If you go to the "Install Info" link, it'll clue you to the various wiring configurations. I think I might like to try the Fillmore East set. =D>/

[nikko18]

i have the ful JP wiring system, i just got 4 push/pull pots and did it myself. it sounds pretty cool. now im not sure of what you're getting though, what does it do? i know you said it coil taps the PU and can make them go out of phase. but can it coil tap both pickups and put them in a series also?

 

anyways back on subject :] seymour duncans are great pickups, i have either a JB something or a pearly gates in my LP (i dont know which though, it's a zebra one) with the JP wiring system sounds awesome. as far as what jimmy actually used i think i heard some where that he uses burstbuckers in his LPs i might be wrong though.

 

my choice of pickups would be rocket pickups and van zandt pickups. on of each, they both make PUs with 4 lead wires. eventually ill be able to get a van zandt for my LP to go along with my rocket pickup, but right now im fine with the seymour duncan.

[britabe]

the SD seth lovers are really nice (a bud of mine has them in a epi LP). i have 59's in my epi LP and like them pretty good. not 100% crazy about the neck but it IS good just not great like the neck in my gibby (57z) also, lindy fralin makes a really nice burstbucker version and folks typically rave about his pups. not sure if they can be had in 4 lead though. check the site

btw as stated before here, SD will give you any HB in 4 lead

[solacematt]

I had a JB in the bridge and a Jazz in the neck of my old DC and sounded amazing. I think that that's what Slash has in most of his Les Paul's as well by the way, it's not something that they just say in ads :)

[DamienAzrael]

I had a JB in the bridge and a Jazz in the neck of my old DC and sounded amazing. I think that that's what Slash has in most of his Les Paul's as well by the way' date=' it's not something that they just say in ads :)[/quote']

 

Sorry, but you're wrong Matt....He uses Seymour Duncan Alnico II's in all his Les Pauls....As for Duncans in a Les Paul I've got a JB and a Jazz in 3 of my Pauls, a Custom Custom and a '59 in 2 of them, and Alnico II's in the rest of them...They're all different but great in their own way.

[Bluesburst]

As some of you know I am putting together the components for my Project Les Paul... I ordered a Jimmy Page wiring kit for the Push Pull Coil split and phase change... So now I need pupps. Tim and a couple other guys suggested Symore Duncan pupps so I went by a music store today and was talking to the tech there... He suggested the JB (Jeff Beck) SH-4 for the neck pick up and the Duncan Distortion SH -6 for the bridge pick up. Both of those come with 4 leads so they will work sith the JP wiring kit... SD alsom makes a Jimmy Page custom shop pick up set that I would love to use but I cant get it here in Spain :-( Anyone hve experience with the SH-4 and SH-6 SD pupps... Any other suggestions? Will Gibson special order a 4 lead pick up? Someone else said 57 classics wire up for coil split and Phase change would be good too. I wish I could get Gibson Jimmy Page 4 lead pupps.... That would be sweet!

 

Hi Dave

 

it depends what tones you're looking for. I did the same with my classic a while back and put SD Alnico II Pro's in. I put them in for Blues / Blues-Rock / Classic Rock stuff. Outstanding results. On single coil, some very Telecasteresque tone (probably why Page had his set up like that!!!) through to some very creamy and smooth stuff. This combo provides an outstanding array of tone when combing the push-pulls with tweaking of volume and tone. (Slash, Gary Moore etc)

 

There's no metal / shredding tones but if jazz is your thing then that's there too.

[surfpup]

I've used the JB, the Custom, the 59, and the Pearly Gates. All are great pickups. Duncan has a nice chart which shows you gain values and eq values. The JB is quite hot for example, while the 59 is more subtle. I like the Pearly Gates because they have a bit more mids than the 59s, but still have low enough gain values to clean up nicely. Lots of options! Anyway, heres the chart.

[Silverbursted]

The guy I jam with has the exact pupps in a late 90's Classic, and sound terrific through his Marshall. IMO, SD's on a LP is definitely a winner.

[solacematt]

 

Sorry' date=' but you're wrong Matt....He uses Seymour Duncan Alnico II's in all his Les Pauls....As for Duncans in a Les Paul I've got a JB and a Jazz in 3 of my Pauls, a Custom Custom and a '59 in 2 of them, and Alnico II's in the rest of them...They're all different but great in their own way.[/quote']

 

That must be where I got it then. My mistake. I'm adding into my signature, 'kids say no to drugs'

[This one goes to 11]

I'll back surfpup on the Duncan Pearly Gates - it's a really sweet pickup, which is on the short list along with Gibson '57s as the replacement choice for the standard ones in my Classic. I'd be curious to know if anyone's fittted the P-Rails to a Les Paul and how they sound.

[elessar820]

I love SD pickups. I've used a Screamin' Demon, Distortion, Invader, Dimebucker, JB, Full Shred and Pearly Gates for the bridge and an Alnico II Pro, Jazz and '59 in the neck as well as a Lil' 59er and Hot Rails. All were pretty good pickups and all pretty much different. I used to put them in my Ibanez guitars, right now all I have is a Screamin' Demon and Alnico II Pro in my SZ, the Screamin' Demon is my favorite of all of them. It's not too hot and not too mellow sounding, hotter than a 59 or Pearly Gates, but not nearly as much as a Dimebucker or Distortion. I'd like to swap out the Alnico II Pro for a '59, that'd probably be a really nice combo. I'm not a big fan of DiMarzio's for the most part, but I am going to try out a Pro Track in my Melody Maker. DiMarzio's website says it sounds like a PAF and after the experience with my BB3, I'd like to give it a shot.

[SRV-Zeppelin]

Hey Dave! I just discovered THIS on Musician's Friend... it's an aged LP Custom w/ BB 2s and 3s that have... wait for it... four leads. Apparently, Gibson does make 4 lead pups, but I don't know how you'd go about ordering them...