Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well got my j45 pure voice last night. Beautiful guitar btw but I have a few issues :( quality isn't what I expected and the guitar sounds extremely tight. Any buy a new j45 recently I've got a few questions to ask Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I got a new J-45 in the last few months as a replacement for a model that was deemed "to be destroyed", had normal new guitar tightness, nowhere near as tight a few months down the line, fairly responsive actually (a touch more so than a J-50 I bought at the same time actually). It's a Std model though so a different guitar from yours. Fit & finish were pretty tasty really, but I ripped the stock pickguard off on Day 1 and installed a Southern Jumbo style guard myself. (I posted pictures recently) Can you list the issues, Jamie. Perhaps we can help with some of them. All the best, hope it loosens up and starts to appeal more as time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd707 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Yeah, bought a J45 in '11 and a J50TV recently. 45 was tight and not well balanced and after several months, gave it up in favor of the J50 that came out of the case warm and ready to go. I recently played a 45 pure voice .... nice but also tight. I think you might warm up to your new purchase as it loosens up. Part of your problem may be that you have such nice guitars already, most new ones will not stand up to ... say, the JB. So be patient and perhaps you will find that you like a particular quality of the pure voice. Either way, congrats 'cause any NGD is a good day. What are your questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Maybe you guys are right. I rarely buy new so maybe I'm not used to the opening up part? As for the issues ill list them later gonna talk with the dealer first. But ya as for this one it's not balanced or projective and I've owned some nice j45s in the past which were a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffchris Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hey, They sound like a nice guitar, are they the same as a t.v but with the amulet? My thought was the same as JD's, you've got and had some killer guitars, so maybe your bar is set higher than others :P. although, you do always here people saying that some are hit and miss so....... I get my new one back tomorrow, yeah :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 My thought was the same as JD's, you've got and had some killer guitars, so maybe your bar is set higher than others :P. That is actually a great point when it comes to giving opinions on guitars. After a lifetime of playing pre-1960 Gibsons that is my comfort zone and I just don't take a real shine to anything else. Does not mean they are better sounding or worse than more modern versions - I am just not used to their sound and feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ya maybe the bar is set high. Though the JB sounds great I can tell it needs to open up but still projects you know it's there. This one I have to force it. Maybe I'm too particular but I think I can judge a good guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 My experience with new guitars has been that they don't radically change, so it has to sound good to my ears right out of the gate. If you have any return rights, you might want to exercise them and start fresh. This speaks directly to the limitations of ordering a new acoustic, sight unseen. Immediately, you're tied into that one guitar, when in reality there are roomfuls of guitars just waiting to be A-Bed. And I must say, every time I've had the opportunity to A-B multiple examples of the same model, one clearly stands head & shoulders above the others. Imho, being able to pick that sweet one out of the pack is what it's all about in Gibsonland. Regardless of the path you choose, I hope it all works out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well got my j45 pure voice last night. Beautiful guitar btw but I have a few issues :( quality isn't what I expected and the guitar sounds extremely tight. Any buy a new j45 recently I've got a few questions to ask Jamie Mother...brother... Concerning counting on it.."opening up"... DO NOT COUNT ON IT. What starts out not good enough..will never ever be good enough. You have a 1950 J45...you know what your expecting. Send it back expresso and get something else.. Why stick to a dud ? I have been in that position so many times through the 80's & part of 90's ,I was burned,wasted time on em trying to play em in & open em up...all those guitars are gone. I tried 2 Bozeman Vine J45's in the past, and they were built fully in the Norlin tradition..like furniture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Yup just got off the phone with the dealer and treated me like a child. So now I ship it back on my money and wait for they're opinion. Ah such is life. Hope it all works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 My experience with new guitars has been that they don't radically change, so it has to sound good to my ears right out of the gate. Generally I agree that the aging process is incredibly slow so if you do not like a guitar from the get go it is better to pass on it than wait for some magical point in time where it "opens up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 So I need to ship the guitar back on my dollar and they will access the situation. See where it goes from here. Ill update! Thanks for the help JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 So I need to ship the guitar back on my dollar and they will access the situation. See where it goes from here. Ill update! Thanks for the help JM What are the issues other than the disappointment with the sound? My concern is that you ship it back, and the dealer says "it sounds like a J-45 to us", and ships it back to you, once again at your cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nick it was sent to me with buckle rash and other cosmetic issues with glue on the soundboard. An odd issue with the neck that I'm hesitant to comment on until I discuss it further. I don't want to be the guy to throw gibson under the bus. Jeremy has helped me through this one and has been a great help! Especially since I've never dealt with this before. Irregardless buckle rash on the back? Come on that's enough right there. Had the guitar sounded as I thought it should it probably wouldn't have bothered me as much. I'm not trying to be picky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nick it was sent to me with buckle rash and other cosmetic issues with glue on the soundboard. An odd issue with the neck that I'm hesitant to comment on until I discuss it further. I don't want to be the guy to throw gibson under the bus. Jeremy has helped me through this one and has been a great help! Especially since I've never dealt with this before. Irregardless buckle rash on the back? Come on that's enough right there. Had the guitar sounded as I thought it should it probably wouldn't have bothered me as much. I'm not trying to be picky That really does not sound acceptable to me. Sounds like shopwear. Glad you've go Jeremy on your side in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 My experience with new guitars has been that they don't radically change, so it has to sound good to my ears right out of the gate. If you have any return rights, you might want to exercise them and start fresh. This speaks directly to the limitations of ordering a new acoustic, sight unseen. Immediately, you're tied into that one guitar, when in reality there are roomfuls of guitars just waiting to be A-Bed. And I must say, every time I've had the opportunity to A-B multiple examples of the same model, one clearly stands head & shoulders above the others. Imho, being able to pick that sweet one out of the pack is what it's all about in Gibsonland. Regardless of the path you choose, I hope it all works out for the best. I AGREE....AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 If you want an independent assessment, I'm more than willing to help out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yup just got off the phone with the dealer and treated me like a child. So now I ship it back on my money and wait for they're opinion. Ah such is life. Hope it all works out Is it possible that shoppe will tell you no..if you want to return it? If they do that please post they're name here. If this is the case. Jeremy Morton is a nice person...ask if he can have them pick you out a guitar that is responsive. The H&D guitar i bought without playing from Acoustic Vibes in Arizona. The owner gave me an honest assesment & I was satisfied. I didnt ask but it came naturally with a trial period and.. he sent it to me in like next day service at no charge. Plus they..polished it...set it up as I asked..took out a pickup I didnt want..asked if I wanted the original pickguard installed or the clear type.. Thats good dealer service. Im wondering how satisfied you potentially can be with a 1950 to compare it to. I think possible. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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