Real Gibson or Fake?

[Boomz12]

I tried doing some research on an electric Gibson. It has a 7 digit serial and is made in Indonesia. I couldn't find anything about Gibson's being made in Indonesia nor anything about a 7 digit serial. Below are some pictures and any advice would be welcomed.

 

 

 

 

[ninety1vee]

its obviously a fake

its a cort (crapola guitars)

[Oringo]

Someone stuck a Gibson logo on this Cort, that's all, and he didn't even bother to replace the Cort neck plate!

 

If you're asking, Boomz, I guess you probably haven't had much experience with Gibsons, so maybe 91V's answer is a little short. In case you're new to this, and this post isn't a prank to sucker in know it all blowhards like me, there are a few things you should know before you ever shell out a dime for a "big name" guitar.

 

Although Gibson made a few guitars with bolt-on necks (Sonex, some L6S'), their main models, Les Pauls, SG's, non-reverse Firebirds, Flying V's, Explorers and most everything else have glued in necks (set neck, it's called). Basically, if you see a Les Paul type of guitar with a Fender-style bolt-in neck, it's not a Gibson.

 

Also, if you're mentioning Indonesia, this Cort must be marked "made in Indonesia." Gibsons have only ever been made in the USA.

 

Hope you didn't buy this as a "bargain price Gibson " because it might not be worth the gas to cart it to the dump.

[nolongermike@gibson]

Nope, not a Gibson. Not even close. Gibson has never been made in Indonesia. Like the other poster said, its a Cort quasi-LP knockoff that somebody doctored the headstock with a Gibson logo on, but didn't bother changing the bolt-on neck plate for. Gibson has rarely made a bolt-neck model, and that's not one of them. No Les Paul has ever had a bolt-neck that was made by Gibson. Epiphone, yes. Gibson, no.

 

I tried doing some research on an electric Gibson. It has a 7 digit serial and is made in Indonesia. I couldn't find anything about Gibson's being made in Indonesia nor anything about a 7 digit serial. Below are some pictures and any advice would be welcomed.

 

 

 

 

 

[Hexeir]

No Les Paul has ever had a bolt-neck that was made by Gibson. Epiphone, yes. Gibson, no.

 

 

I wish you were right, but Gibson in fact did make a bolt-on Les Paul. It wasn't called a Les Paul, it was called the Invader. But it was definitely in the shape. I know I'm a newbie, and you're admin, but... yeah, it happened.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Gibson_Invader_(1).jpg

[Hexeir]

No Les Paul has ever had a bolt-neck that was made by Gibson. Epiphone' date=' yes. Gibson, no.

 

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I wish you were right, but Gibson in fact did make a bolt-on Les Paul. It wasn't called a Les Paul, it was called the Invader. But it was definitely in the shape. I know I'm a newbie, and you're admin, but... yeah, it happened.

 

[Oringo]

Good point, Hexeir!

I 'd heard of the Invader, but didn't realize the body was so close to the Les Paul size and shape. Sonex's and bolt-on L6s' are single cut-aways, but the body dimensions are differrent, thinner and wider. It's good to watch out for this since it would be relatively easy to fake an invader from a cheapo LP copy. Then again, real Invaders don't seem to fetch too much, so it's probably not a market being flooded by forgers...

 

Oh yeah, let's not forget the Marauder! Oh, those 80's cost-cutting Gibsons! Then again, my non-reverse Firebird was a cost-cutting move compared to the reverse models, and come to think of it, the SG shape must have saved some dough compared to maple capped Les Pauls...

[BIGBENDS]

The Invader only has a mahogany body, no maple cap like a Les Paul. It's a very distinct difference. It's obvious that it's more a beginner guitar than a LP is. The point that Mike made was that no LES PAUL has ever had a bolt on neck. Other Gibson guitars vaguely resembling the LP body shape have had bolt on necks. The Sonex was also a bolt on neck guitar by the Gibson Guitar Company, but it is very obvious that it's not a LP.

 

[yoda]

 

I wish you were right' date=' but Gibson in fact did make a bolt-on Les Paul. It wasn't called a Les Paul, it was called the Invader. But it was definitely in the shape. I know I'm a newbie, and you're admin, but... yeah, it happened.[/color']

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OH SNAP!!!!!!!!!

[nolongermike@gibson]

No, I stand by it. Gibson has never made a Les Paul model with a bolt-on neck. That "Invader' is not a "Les Paul."

[rmngretsch14]

We've lost the point, Boomz what you have may be a piece of god knows what, but there is potential for it yet. You can go Pete Townsend on it, you can use it to heat your house for a little while, or you can strip it down to the bare essentials and make your own custom guitar(also as satisfying as bashing it)