Hexeir Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 They're horrid. They look like something out of a horror film - a mad scientist's creation from the 1920's! Schaller makes a better product, no comparison! The Dunlops stick 2" off of the guitar, ruining the appearance, not to mention, that gives it more leverage to put MORE PRESSURE on your strap button! Ridiculous! Oh yes, and you can accidentally release them, or people can play jokes on you and press the things. Schallers hold on even when released if you're standing upright!
Thundergod Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 They're horrid. They look like something out of a horror film - a mad scientist's creation from the 1920's! Schaller makes a better product' date=' no comparison! The Dunlops stick 2" off of the guitar, ruining the appearance, not to mention, that gives it more leverage to put MORE PRESSURE on your strap button! Ridiculous! [b']Oh yes, and you can accidentally release them, or people can play jokes on you and press the things. [/b]Schallers hold on even when released if you're standing upright! You are damn right man... I dont kwno why they didn't use schallers... that means if I ever buy one of the guitars that come with straplocks, I'll have to buy a schaller set anyway. I think some time ago there were a few polls about which straplpock was better and more used by forum members (not only one)... schaller won. I only use schallers, they are in all my guitars, even the ones I dont use at all.
ninety1vee Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 dunlops pwn 2'' is an exageration until your guitar falls, they're fine
SRV-Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Depends which Dunlops.... the ones that cost a buck each that just twist on and off are great. The other ones suck.
AXE® Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 dunlops pwn English...Learn it , love it , live it.
RichCI Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 English...Learn it ' date=' love it , live it.[/quote'] Uberphat pwnage
Homz Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 I like my Dunlop's. Got on 3 guitars and never had a problem.
modoc_333 Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Schaller has a trouble producing enough of them. Generally, music stores have trouble getting them in stock. when they can order them, they order huge amounts to make sure they last. Dunlop has been more able to produce their product in significant quantities... thus keeping them available year- round. i'm sure that was part of the issue. if schaller were to not come through on an order, it would completely stop production of that the LP. that's not something Gibson can risk. so, they went with Dunlop.
AXE® Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Schaller made in Germany. Dunlop made in ????(China) I really don't know.
Hexeir Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Even if they worked perfectly fine (which they don't), They're still hideous. And about the availability issue: I'd rather have regular strap buttons to replace with Schallers than these Dunlops. I can throw the regular strap buttons in the case's storage compartment, with the Dunlops I'll have to rent a storage space, or an aircraft hangar or something.
nolongermike@gibson Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Not to change the subject, because I don't have an answer to the OP, but am I the only one who has had trouble keeping the Schaller strap buttons connected to a nice, thick leather strap, like from Levy's? I can make them fit a cheapo strap fine, but I need the thick padded leather ones to play these monster Les Pauls.
ninety1vee Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 am I the only one who has had trouble keeping the Schaller strap buttons connected to a nice, thick leather strap, like from Levy's? i have a 3"" wide and super thick leather Levy's strap. schallers are indeed murderous on it, so i conceded and got dunlops thinking they would blow. low and behold 3 years go by and they've not failed once (knock on wood). deal with it
Hexeir Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Not to change the subject' date=' because I don't have an answer to the OP, but am I the only one who has had trouble keeping the Schaller strap buttons connected to a nice, thick leather strap, like from Levy's? I can make them fit a cheapo strap fine, but I need the thick padded leather ones to play these monster Les Pauls. [/quote'] I only use high quality straps, I've never spent less than $40 on one. And I've never had a Schaller come off of my strap after putting it on. You just gotta get them to grab, then get a ratchet and tighten it up good and tight. Best strap locks ever made.... Good point though - I actually believe Fender has bought the rights to Schaller. Good for them. The F word's winning me over on strap locks.
surfpup Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 I like the Dunlops fine. However, I don't think Gibson should include them. Should be up to the buyer. (But what do I know since I like the Dunlops and they are apparently horrid!)
Ian Martin Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Well, pointing out the obvious...Dunlop is in the US and Schallers are made in Germany. I don't believe Fender bought the exclusive rights to bundle Schallers with their guitars...that makes no sense. I'm sure it just came down to cost. I like Dunlops on Gibsons that have a peg on the back...my SG, Explorer, etc. Schallers are a MUST on top-mounted pegs, like LPs and Strats. I think it's about damn time that Gibson realized it was wise to include some kind of lock from the factory. As long as I can easily retrofit my LPs from Dunlops to Schallers effortlessly, then I am good.
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 all of thoose straps are too short
stymye Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 why dunlop straplocks? it helps keeps the greenhorns from droping their guitars and snapping off the headstock. nuff said. if your corksniffing over straplocks , your beyond help
RichCI Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 I see it this way: At least they include some sort of strap locks. The only other company I can think of that tried to provide something better than a regular strap button was when Ibanez used to put these funky looking V shaped strap buttons on their guitars back in the 80s. Not to change the subject' date=' because I don't have an answer to the OP, but am I the only one who has had trouble keeping the Schaller strap buttons connected to a nice, thick leather strap, like from Levy's? I can make them fit a cheapo strap fine, but I need the thick padded leather ones to play these monster Les Pauls. [/quote'] Mike, both Dunlop and Schaller are like that. What I do with Schallers is put lock part in a vice then, after wrestling to get the nut at least a half a turn on the threads with the strap in place, is then crank it down heavily with a socket wrench. The leather itself actually makes for a very good washer. With the Dunlops, I had to use a flathead screwdriver just to force that clip on the lock - a huge hassle.
Silverbursted Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Being a cheap bastard, I interchange two straps among all my guitars. So a common strap lock was the best way to accomplish that. Early on (after reading numerous threads on this very subject), I went with the Schallers, never really looked at the Dunlops.
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