CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Did Gibson ever issue the Les Paul Deluxe with an ABR1? I've seen one in a shop locally and the sales guy says it came stock (he says the guitar in question is a 74). CH1.
Stefptycia Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Not as far as I know - but if you email Gibson direct they should be able to confirm or otherwise
CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Thanks. L5Larry made an interesting comment in here http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=9728&p=1 Given the Guitar in question has a two piece top and had Model not Deluxe on the silk screen logo - it has to be a standard re labeled Deluxe. I agree on bridge not being right but it's always useful to get a sanity check!
Flight959 Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 In the Gibson LP manual ..it stated that the Deluxe had an ABR1 tune-0-matic type bridge...It states that the bridge has the 50's type metal saddles.. but no "modern" retaining spring... Regards Flight959
CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Flight959 that's a mis quote, it says under the section titled Bridge. "The bridge of the original ABR-1 Tune-o-Matic type has the usual thumbscrews for height adjustment. The string length adjustment requires a conventional straight-slot screwdriver. The bridge has 50's type metal saddles but no modern retaining spring. Also, if you have the book in front of you note the pictures of the bridge on the "Typical Example of the Deluxe" on page 134.
mildperv Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 My '73 has an original ABR (nylon). Never know what you're going to get in the '70s.
L5Larry Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 My '75 Standard came with the "Nashville" bridge.
CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 My '73 has an original ABR (nylon). Never know what you're going to get in the '70s. I can see the three piece top - which looks at though it's seen some action but it also has 'buckers and tone and Vol steel pointers - neither of which to my knowledge came as standard on a Deluxe. How can you tell the bridge was original and not altered to fit the existing posts? Cheers.
L5Larry Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 How can you tell the bridge was original and not altered to fit the existing posts? You can't. The ABR-1 and the "Nashville" sit on the same posts. Maybe you can determine a date when Gibson started using the Nashville bridge' date=' if it was after that guitar was built, then you have your answer. As for the knob pointers, my '75 Standard does NOT have pointers. My guitar is factory stock (except I removed the pickguard) for I bought it new in '75, and has been used as a "model" for restoring LP's from this era. [img']http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2327165660_9e4b20a9f5_o.jpg[/img] PS: This tallies up as my 400th post, I need to get a life.
CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 Congrats on the post count! The ABR1 post spacing is 2-29/32" the Nashville post spacing is 2-15/16". They are not interchangeable. AFAIK an ABR1 bridge will not fit on Nashville posts unless the post holes have been made oval - This was not an uncommon mod so I'm suprised more folk aren't chiming in! Nice Burst on that top by the way.
bryvincent Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 of course Gibson made an LP Deluxe w/ ABR-1s. The LP Deluxe was introduced in 1969 The Nashville bridge was first used in 1977
CH1 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 of course Gibson made an LP Deluxe w/ ABR-1s. The Nashville bridge was first used in 1977 Really?? - Is this documented anywhere you can point to? Only I've found a reference that suggests it was at least available on a L5CES between 72 and 73 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=X9fxFuF7QEUC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=history+Gibson+%22nashville+bridge%22&source=web&ots=mIVOWawTqZ&sig=xZxA4nHThNklXj2IHWt-r4KUue0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result I'm sure it was even earlier than that but I cant find it documented anywhere Cheers.
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