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BluesKing777

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j45nick

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Maybe I'm misreading it, but these seem to be scavanged parts from Gibson guitars. I've generally used repro or OEM parts from various after-market sources, such as Kluson tuners, vintage-style pickguards, replacement bridges, etc.

 

I've only used these to replace missing or damaged orginal parts.

 

In the US, there are a fair number of these after-market sources, such as allparts, grguitars, stewmac, vintagecorrectparts (originals), etc.

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ParlourMan

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He appears to be one of those guys that takes a full guitar, and parts it out.

 

Not sure how I feel about that.

 

It's how people make money on ebay... especially in the fender world. Strip a 52 Telecaster to bits and flog them and you'll get an extra couple of hundred than you will for the full guitar. It is their guitar though, your feelings or mine matter very little.

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I assumed the parts came from broken guitars - like ex Jimi, Pete or even Tiger stuff.

 

 

Do you think they pull apart perfectly fine guitars? That wouldn't be right.

 

 

I was looking at a nice set of Kluson Keystones (nickel) he had listed.

 

 

BluesKing777.

It's pretty clear he is. He also has the bodies for sale, without parts.

 

In one case at least, he has a Fender neck and body, and he tells the seriel# they come from.

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I'm really on the fence how I feel agout this kinda stuff...these sellers doing this.

 

On the one hand, desacrating perfectly good guitars and selling them as separate parts seems greedy. So you make more off it, is that worth destroying a guitar? Is this really an honorable way to make money?

 

Also, to be sure, it does cause problems down the road for 'collecters'. Origonal does not mean having the exact same parts, it means the ORIGONAL parts. Granted, if the origonals are missing, you want the EXACT same thing. But one problem down the road could be that when someone sees a period 'correct' part, it could be believed it possibly came with that part when it never did.

 

On the other hand, the guy here seems to be up-front about what he is selling and doing. I don't see any fraud going on here, or misleading anyone. He might be destroying guitars, but guitars don't have feelings or have mouths to feed. And if you actually needed an 'origonal' part, knowing the guitar it came from is maybe the best you can do to insure it is the CORRECT part.

 

For example, if I had a '68 Strat and the origonal 'F' tuners were long gone because they sucked, getting a set from a guy that desecrated an origonal '68 Strat would assure me of getting the origonal 'F' tuners that sucked as much as they need to to keep it authentic as possible.

 

Or, if you had a particular Gibson that came with the 500t humbucker and wanted to be sure you got a pickup that was origonally stock, knowing the 500t came from the same guitar that was desecrated would assure you that the pickup at least was available for your's.

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ParlourMan

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I'm really on the fence how I feel agout this kinda stuff...these sellers doing this.

 

On the one hand, desacrating perfectly good guitars and selling them as separate parts seems greedy. So you make more off it, is that worth destroying a guitar? Is this really an honorable way to make money?

 

Are you serious? When did we become the guardians of manufactured products which happen to be be musical instruments... Honorable? c'mon guys lets be realistic...

 

 

He might be destroying guitars, but guitars don't have feelings or have mouths to feed. And if you actually needed an 'origonal' part, knowing the guitar it came from is maybe the best you can do to insure it is the CORRECT part.

 

Do you feel the same about everything that gets parted out, businesses, cars, homes renovated to multiple apartments? seems you could be taking on a lot of unnecessary worries there.

 

 

 

 

 

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Are you serious? When did we become the guardians of manufactured products which happen to be be musical instruments... Honorable? c'mon guys lets be realistic...

 

 

 

 

Do you feel the same about everything that gets parted out, businesses, cars, homes renovated to multiple apartments? seems you could be taking on a lot of unnecessary worries there.

I am absolutely realistic about being 'honorable' and having that matter.

 

I don't feel I am the judge, and my judgement is not always correct. But I do see, however, a difference between a man that chooses to EARN a living doing something productive and benificail to others, compared to guy who chooses to earn money by doing something not really benificial to others besides himself. I ain't THAT guy who gets to determine who is who, and I ain't responsible for what others do. But I am responsible for who I do business with as well as reponsible for what I do myself in business. Why shouldn't I care?

 

I HAVE to say also, that while I consider it my business to care about who and what I feel are legitimate in what they do for a living and how they do it, I do NOT feel it is right to decide what poeple should or shouldn't do and if they have a right to do it. Having ethics is one thing, having laws based on your ethics controlling others is another.

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I am absolutely realistic about being 'honorable' and having that matter.

 

I don't feel I am the judge, and my judgement is not always correct. But I do see, however, a difference between a man that chooses to EARN a living doing something productive and benificail to others, compared to guy who chooses to earn money by doing something not really benificial to others besides himself. I ain't THAT guy who gets to determine who is who, and I ain't responsible for what others do. But I am responsible for who I do business with as well as reponsible for what I do myself in business. Why shouldn't I care?

 

I HAVE to say also, that while I consider it my business to care about who and what I feel are legitimate in what they do for a living and how they do it, I do NOT feel it is right to decide what poeple should or shouldn't do and if they have a right to do it. Having ethics is one thing, having laws based on your ethics controlling others is another.

 

OK, fair enough, but it reads like guitar enthusiasts are some sort of guardian or gatekeepers for other guitars, makes no sense to me... if someone wants to buy up stuff and part it out, he servicing people who need the parts, we are talking about instruments that need parts from time to time and we all want genuine stuff, (I really can't see the grumble in it. The idea of honorable though, or not honorable in the case mentioned earlier... why exactly is it not honorable?

 

I sent back a Gibson Woody Guthrie model for what was a small issue, but fixable I'd imagine, gibson themselves destroyed it and issued a new J-45 to me, does the same 'wood guardian' mentality apply, or are they exempt? I really can't believe folk think like that over manufactured guitars, the idea that we owe the world a deed of looking after it, seems almost busybodyish to me, they're his guitars, it's none of my business what he does of how he resells them, so long as its not marketed as something its not I really dont see the issue. As I said earlier, seems to me your taking on a worry burden over something that's not any of your concern in the slightest.

 

I'm not being argumentative or aggressive, I'm really flumoxed that somebody would even 2nd thought this never mind take it on as a worry far less question how honourable it is.

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