flatbaroque Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Not sure if there is one too many zeros here! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/A-very-rare-Martin-acoustic-guitar-/130826486646?pt=AU_Musical_Instruments_Instruments&hash=item1e75ddc376 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 nice old thing . think he's optimistic waiting on someone who would need a twelve string neck on a six string though ... its one of those things thats worth the money if it fits the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Overly optimistic on price, I'd say. It does look like the conversion was a bit of a chore, filling the the slots in the headstock, etc. Tom Barnwell (tpbiii) has a somewhat similar conversion of a D-12-35 in his stable, and has posted videos here of his wife playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 ? $9850...for a 1970 Martin ? Texan Rancher with big fingers who couldnt play it...oh brother. If the guitar was Brazilian Rosewood..original decent condition,the value for TWO of them would be about this ..and still would be buying two over built guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 There is a guy on the Guild Forun who did a really nice job or converting a Guild 12 string to a 6 string. I gotta admit the 1 7/8" nut would be an attractive feature for a Martin 6 string but $11K to get it? I like the only real guitar players need apply thing. I guess us hacks could never really appreciate such a unique instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sounds like a good deal! Being from the mid-west, I can really relate to all this Texas and Aussie lingo and trusted luthiers that take three months to setup a guitar (I thought I was slow). I'm thinking about posing as a real player and going down there and kick the tyres. I'm not sure which flight to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I see Brazilian Rosewood Martins (68) going for anywhere from $5k to 7K locally.......this would be considered a "Frankenstein" guitar for collectors, but might be a cool player's guitar for someone looking for wider nut and something more "exotic". However, 70's Martins are not really sought after as players or collectors. They have a host of common problems that are endemic to the species. Lifting pickguards, loose braces, incorrect placement of the saddle and bridge resulting in terrible intonation, rosewood bridge plate, and at this age, probably needing a neck reset and fret job. Add that to the extra bracing for a 12 string, killing the sound for a 6 string (unless they shaved the braces) and I would say..."stay away" unless you just want a strange guitar. Here a 1970 D-28 would sell for between $1500 and $2200 depending on how much work had been done on it, condition, etc. This guitar would HAVE to go for less than the low end price. So his asking price is ridiculous, he is trying to sell a story not a guitar.......IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Braz Rosewood or not, Martins made from 1968 on tend to not be considered the best of the breed due to the bulky rosewood bridgeplate they started using that year. The only other issue afflicting 1970s Martins I have heard of was intonation problems due to improper bridge placement. Apparently a worn out tool or something was the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 interesting that he thinks his 2006 appraisal of its top dollar value is the starting price, optimistic indeed. Seems a case of "just because it's rare..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struma6 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Speaking of Texas: El Paso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Braz Rosewood or not, Martins made from 1968 on tend to not be considered the best of the breed due to the bulky rosewood bridgeplate they started using that year. The only other issue afflicting 1970s Martins I have heard of was intonation problems due to improper bridge placement. Apparently a worn out tool or something was the culprit. Same reason..a worn out tool.. responsible for the round edges of headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My understanding: 70's Martin=less money. 12 string=less money. 12 string converted to 6 string=less money. About the LOWEST value Martin I could imagine would be= 70's Martin 12 string converted to 6 string. Where the HELL would an estimate of 9,500 dollars come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Same reason..a worn out tool.. responsible for the round edges of headstock. Sounds like the seller is a "worn out tool!" I would never buy a guitar from a guy that cannot spell the word tire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My sentiments also..... ......to the above three posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sounds like a good deal! Being from the mid-west, I can really relate to all this Texas and Aussie lingo and trusted luthiers that take three months to setup a guitar (I thought I was slow). I'm thinking about posing as a real player and going down there and kick the tyres. I'm not sure which flight to take THIS is quality comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Same reason..a worn out tool.. responsible for the round edges of headstock. Merseybeat....let's just hope YOUR tool isn't worn out!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My understanding: 70's Martin=less money. 12 string=less money. 12 string converted to 6 string=less money. About the LOWEST value Martin I could imagine would be= 70's Martin 12 string converted to 6 string. Where the HELL would an estimate of 9,500 dollars come from? Stein...Good analysis!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatbaroque Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sounds like a good deal! Being from the mid-west, I can really relate to all this Texas and Aussie lingo and trusted luthiers that take three months to setup a guitar (I thought I was slow). I'm thinking about posing as a real player and going down there and kick the tyres. I'm not sure which flight to take Dave with those fat mid west fingers be careful you don't hit the $7800 button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Dave with those fat mid west fingers be careful you don't hit the $7800 button Can anyone tell me how Economy T & B are $5000 apart on the same flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatbaroque Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can anyone tell me how Economy T & B are $5000 apart on the same flight? Economy B used to be 12 seats and it was converted to 6 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Economy B used to be 12 seats and it was converted to 6 !! Comedy. That's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Merseybeat....let's just hope YOUR tool isn't worn out!!!! Its died from non use.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can anyone tell me how Economy T & B are $5000 apart on the same flight? They use hide glue for the Economy 'B' seats..... Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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