Compared Les Paul Studios today..

[Gibson Artist]

So a friend brought over his red wine gold les paul studio to jam with me. We tried each other's instruments just for fun and although they are the same model i was rather surprised there were some noticeable differences. I am no guitar expert by any means, these are just my personal observations.

 

Mine is a 2012 Fireburst Satin with Burstbucker Pros - His is a 2002 Red Wine Gold with the 498 pickups.

 

We played them both on clean and mine seemed to have a brighter tone despite the lower cost. Funny, i thought i was getting an almost inferior pickup yet the Burstbucker Pro really stood up well vs his. On a distortion both handled equally as well but his had a slightly different tone than mine, im not sure how to describe it in words but it was a subtle difference.

 

Also, i believe mine has a chunkier neck than his. Being used to Fender's i found his to be more towards my particular taste and love the finish on his red wine. We both had a blast but he walked away wanting to buy my guitar and i didnt really want his because i really,REALLY like the Burstbuckers.

 

My question is do all Studio necks come the same now? Or was his just less chunkier because its an older model? What i also wonder is if i can find a les paul with a slightly slimmer neck profile and keep the burstbucker pros should i upgrade to a higher end model down the road? Any comments from you Gibby Experts more than welcome.

 

Ps my friend now wants a Burstbucker Pro Les Paul while keeping his old one, he was quite impressed with them.

[crazytrain513]

So a friend brought over his red wine gold les paul studio to jam with me. We tried each other's instruments just for fun and although they are the same model i was rather surprised there were some noticeable differences. I am no guitar expert by any means, these are just my personal observations.

 

Mine is a 2012 Fireburst Satin with Burstbucker Pros - His is a 2002 Red Wine Gold with the 498 pickups.

 

We played them both on clean and mine seemed to have a brighter tone despite the lower cost. Funny, i thought i was getting an almost inferior pickup yet the Burstbucker Pro really stood up well vs his. On a distortion both handled equally as well but his had a slightly different tone than mine, im not sure how to describe it in words but it was a subtle difference.

 

Also, i believe mine has a chunkier neck than his. Being used to Fender's i found his to be more towards my particular taste and love the finish on his red wine. We both had a blast but he walked away wanting to buy my guitar and i didnt really want his because i really,REALLY like the Burstbuckers.

 

My question is do all Studio necks come the same now? Or was his just less chunkier because its an older model? What i also wonder is if i can find a les paul with a slightly slimmer neck profile and keep the burstbucker pros should i upgrade to a higher end model down the road? Any comments from you Gibby Experts more than welcome.

 

Ps my friend now wants a Burstbucker Pro Les Paul while keeping his old one, he was quite impressed with them.

 

Hello! I too have a Studio with the Burstbucker Pros in them. They're actually quite hot for what they're worth. They're both different schools of thought in terms of pickup.

 

The BB's are an attempt to imitate the earlier tones players used to get from the original PAFs (if I'm not mistaken) and the 498 is a more modern-sounding pickup.

 

I personally picked the BB's over the 498 because I couldn't seem to get a nice clean sound from the latter. I find my BB Pro's almost TOO BRIGHT and almost always have the tone rolled back but I see you're also coming from the Fender camp so this will definitely appeal to you.

 

As for finding a guitar with the thinner (I'm guessing 60's) neck with Burstbuckers, I'm not sure that at this current time there is much option other than the Les Paul Standard with the asymmetrical neck, but perhaps some more knowledgeable may be able to help out here!

 

Hope this helps!

[btoth76]

Hello!

 

A new model for this year with 60s neck and Burstbuckers: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-60s-Tribute.aspx

 

Cheers... Bence

[Gibson Artist]

Hello!

 

A new model for this year with 60s neck and Burstbuckers: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-60s-Tribute.aspx

 

Cheers... Bence

 

Ah, so my vision of the perfect les paul for me does exist! I was reading they're one of the most accurate reproductions of PAF pickups, while ive never played an original PAF i do know those were used in the old Gibbys and people love them.

 

I'll definately hit a music store sometime in the near future and try the one out. So far, the specs look great and i love how it says the neck is pleked, i thought only Traditionals and up did that?

[btoth76]

Ah, so my vision of the perfect les paul for me does exist! I was reading they're one of the most accurate reproductions of PAF pickups, while ive never played an original PAF i do know those were used in the old Gibbys and people love them.

 

I'll definately hit a music store sometime in the near future and try the one out. So far, the specs look great and i love how it says the neck is pleked, i thought only Traditions and up did that?

 

Hello!

 

Since not all original PAFs were made equal, some had more some less windings, and bobbins were not matched perfectly, there are different recreations of those. The replica of a "perfect" PAF is the "'57 Classic" (normal number of wounds - same on both bobbins), slightly over-wound PAF would be the "'57 Classic Plus". Replica of PAF with mismatched bobbins are the Burstbuckers. BB1, 2, 3 depending how hot they got wound. BB Pro is the AlNiCo V version of BBs for fatter tone.

 

As far as PLEK is concerned, I guess only the nut is PLEK'd on Studios (with more or less success - in my experience).

 

Cheers... Bence

[Gibson Artist]

Hello! I too have a Studio with the Burstbucker Pros in them. They're actually quite hot for what they're worth. They're both different schools of thought in terms of pickup.

 

The BB's are an attempt to imitate the earlier tones players used to get from the original PAFs (if I'm not mistaken) and the 498 is a more modern-sounding pickup.

 

I personally picked the BB's over the 498 because I couldn't seem to get a nice clean sound from the latter. I find my BB Pro's almost TOO BRIGHT and almost always have the tone rolled back but I see you're also coming from the Fender camp so this will definitely appeal to you.

 

As for finding a guitar with the thinner (I'm guessing 60's) neck with Burstbuckers, I'm not sure that at this current time there is much option other than the Les Paul Standard with the asymmetrical neck, but perhaps some more knowledgeable may be able to help out here!

 

Hope this helps!

 

Yeah, my first electric was a tele, then strat. Ive had both lp, this one i got because it was on sale and i had hoped it would be as good as my first. Turns out, i like it better. I understand now why people say you should try as many gits as possible. Im only 5'8 so i dont have the biggest hands and slimmer necks make playability abit easier for me.

[Sgt.]

So a friend brought over his red wine gold les paul studio to jam with me. We tried each other's instruments just for fun and although they are the same model i was rather surprised there were some noticeable differences. I am no guitar expert by any means, these are just my personal observations.

 

Mine is a 2012 Fireburst Satin with Burstbucker Pros - His is a 2002 Red Wine Gold with the 498 pickups.

 

We played them both on clean and mine seemed to have a brighter tone despite the lower cost. Funny, i thought i was getting an almost inferior pickup yet the Burstbucker Pro really stood up well vs his. On a distortion both handled equally as well but his had a slightly different tone than mine, im not sure how to describe it in words but it was a subtle difference.

 

Also, i believe mine has a chunkier neck than his. Being used to Fender's i found his to be more towards my particular taste and love the finish on his red wine. We both had a blast but he walked away wanting to buy my guitar and i didnt really want his because i really,REALLY like the Burstbuckers.

 

My question is do all Studio necks come the same now? Or was his just less chunkier because its an older model? What i also wonder is if i can find a les paul with a slightly slimmer neck profile and keep the burstbucker pros should i upgrade to a higher end model down the road? Any comments from you Gibby Experts more than welcome.

 

Ps my friend now wants a Burstbucker Pro Les Paul while keeping his old one, he was quite impressed with them.

 

just curious, i have a 2011 lp studio with the BB pros and there's a lot of hum when the volume and tone are dialed up full. i have to roll the tone back to about three to reduce the hum and that makes the tone duller obviously. do your BB pros on the studio or your friend's studio with the 498's hum excessivley when all the knobs are dimed?

personally i liked the fact that you could get such quality pickups on the entry model studios. I find them to be a hotter pickup and maybe that's what the hum is but I think it should be noisefree, humbuckers, duh! To me the BB pros sound plunky played clean, but exceptional overdrive. again there's room to play there, lower the pickups, adjust action ...