Pickup Dude Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Epiphone's sight is not much help so I have been combing the internet looking for specs & model numbers for the Epiphone Alnico Classic & Alnico Classic Plus Pickups. What follows is my assumptions based on what I have found. If the experts could please read what follows and correct/confirm this information: ------------------------- Start of Assumptions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The "Alnico Classic" & "Alnico Classic Plus" pickups are not sold separately (they only come included with Epiphone guitars) The "Alnico Classic" & "Alnico Classic Plus" Humbucker Pickups are Epiphone low cost versions of Gibson 490R & 498T and are made in China. NECK Pickup "F" Stamp means pole spacing: 50mm (1-15/16") -8.1k ohms -Alnico-V magnet -output 6.5 out of 10.0 max Model numbers include but are not limited to: G-400 Neck = Alnico Classic with Chrome cover 57CH (G) = Alnico Classic with Chrome cover HB6N (OPEN) = Alnico Classic Uncovered Six Neck BRIDGE Pickup "R" Stamp means pole spacing: 52mm (2-1/16") -13.3k ohms -Alnico-V magnet -output 7.0 out of 10.0 max Model numbers include but are not limited to: G-400 Bridge = Alnico Classic Plus with Chrome cover HOTCH (G) = Alnico Classic Plus with Chrome cover HOTHB8B (OPEN) = Alnico Classic Plus Uncovered Eight Bridge -------------- End of Assumptions -------------------------------------------------------------- ************* References Follow ******************************** http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/37618-epiphone-pickups/ The '57 Alnico Classic and the '57 Alnico Classic Hot... in covered and uncovered flavours. Note that the uncovered PUs measure out exactly the same resistance as the covered ones. ---------------------------------------------------- http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/60596-get-g-400-or-1966-g-400-spec-run/ Alnico Classic Humbucker has an Alnico V Magnet, rated at 8.5Kohms Alnico Classic Plus Humbucker has an Alnico V Magnet, rated at 13.8Kohms (wound slightly hotter). In a G-400 Series guitar, the typical pickups are: HOTCH(G) Bridge (Alnico Classic Plus) 57CH(G) Neck (Alnico Classic) On the back of the pup will be a sticker that will say either "HOTCH(G) or 57CH(G)" or just simply "G-400 Bridge or G-400 Neck", based on which pup it is. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/pickups/79714-help-identifying-gibson-pickup.html Epiphone 57CH(Classic) (Alnico5) 7.8 - 8.13 KO Epiphone HOTCH(Classic +) (Alnico5) 13.3 – 14 KO Epiphone HOTH8B (Alnico5) 13.14-13.58 KO Epiphone HB6N (Alnico5) 8.12-8.30 KO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Welcome to the forum! Not sure about the pole spacing. The rest of the information looks accurate. Why the curiosity? Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am putting together a EDS-1275 clone and want to find "Alnico 5" covered and uncovered pickups similar to what Jimmy Page used. His guitar is very well documented and had: 6-String: 490R & 498T uncovered (they came from Gibson with covers however he removed them thinking the covers killed some of the tone) 12-String: 490R & 498T covered Because I can't afford 490/498 I am looking for Epiphone Alnico Classic and Alnico Classic Plus in the covered and uncovered versions. I want to wire the guitar like the G-1275 which does lead me to another question ...I am looking for a wiring diagram for the Epiphone G-1275 can someone post it? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 ...I am looking for Epiphone Alnico Classic and Alnico Classic Plus in the covered and uncovered versions. I see these on ebay for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Here's one for the Gibson version: http://www.gibson.com/Files/schematics/EDS-1275wiring.PDF The EDS-1275 is a little different than the G-1275 the G-1275 has a three 3-way switches for IMO better output control. One of the switches is a Master neck select switch and the other two are Neck/Bridge PUP select (one per neck) There are 4 knobs: A Vol/Tone for 12-string neck and a Vol/Tone for the 6-string neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I see these on ebay for next to nothing. Yeah and the model numbers are all over the place thus the reason I am investigating before buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lol. If the sight is really bad, we could buy them some glasses. So yea, basically similar to a set of 490r/498t ... Except that they sound fairly different despite the similarity in spec' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am not an electrical guru so I am wondering if this wiring configuration will work for a double neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The diagram looks fine to me, however I have not played a double neck before. On your diagram the final 12/6 selector will have both guitars on in the middle position....is that how they are usually wired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 The diagram looks fine to me, however I have not played a double neck before. On your diagram the final 12/6 selector will have both guitars on in the middle position....is that how they are usually wired? Correct I want both necks on in the middle. It sucks a lot of volume in this mode but you can move between necks without having to play with a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I am not an electrical guru so I am wondering if this wiring configuration will work for a double neck? Soldered up the guitar according to this diagram and it works exactly as I wanted. So in the future if any one is looked for a Ephiphone G-1275 wiring diagram schematic they could use this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickup Dude Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 On another note if anyone knows of reasonably priced humbuckers that would be better than the Epiphone ALNICO Classics that I should consider please let me know. I am looking for something similar to what Jimmy Page use on his EDS-1275 Gibson 490 neck and 498 bridge. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemans335 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I see these on ebay for next to nothing. Yes, the old discontinued models, like '57's etc. I never cared for them, too muddy. I always replaced them. Now that Epiphone has had Probuckers and Alnico Classics for the last two years, things are very different. Those are nice-sounding, clear PU's; big improvement. Those don't need to be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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