JamGuy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 ebay SG Seems a little off... what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgplayers Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 most people wait to start the heavy bidding. Don't see finish like that on a 1967 do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 looks pretty good except the stop tail piece is throwing me off. I thought they all had a lyre on them back then. what year does it date to??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgplayers Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think will watch this one. did they use a thicker finish in 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamGuy Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 wouldn't it also have the larger pickguard? I looked at a ton of 67 SG's on google and not a one looked like this. It's hard tellin' with this one. The case is odd too... a modern case which looks abnormally old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Moore Tribute Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The inlays look suspect. Personally if the seller sells EVERYTHING under the sun avoid as most of the time their fakes sold to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 If it's real, it's a 2006 Sg Standard Custom Shop-Not faded Is there wings on the back of the headstock? There is a nuance in color but ......... Binding and frets, what you call it fret nibs? Its lacking here. A nice fake....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgplayers Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 dam that's getting scary. I don't think I would have spotted it as being a fake. I guess I wouldn't make a very good guitar detective. but I did think someone had filled some pick guard screw holes and put that pick guard on it and then refinished it with the wrong stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP_CS336 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fake or real, the finish has a lot of lacquer checking (cracks). Also, were they using ABR-1 bridges back then (note the retaining wire and the screws facing the bridge pickup)? I have an SG Standard and they now have the Nashville bridges (not sure about the "61 re-issue models). Also note that the stop tailpiece and the bridge have quite a bit of oxidation. Whoever had this guitar before was a real sweater and didn't seem to wipe it off very often, if at all. Why the heck he has.his knob pointer flush against the finish is beyond me. Most ones I see (including mine) are turned up so the point makes it easier to read where you're dialed in on volume or tone. But, to each his own, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 .... Binding and frets, what you call it fret nibs? Its lacking here. .... Could've been refretted. The bass side cutaway bevel is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgplayers Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I just noticed the lowest pick guard screw, to the right of the screw the pick guard seems to over hang some too. but that could be the image and light. Hey if I ever find the next guitar of my dreams can I post a couple pictures for you guys to look at? I have been hearing about some pretty good fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Could've been refretted. The bass side cutaway bevel is huge. Pretty early it's supposed to be a 2006, the bevel looks huge. I just noticed the lowest pick guard screw, to the right of the screw the pick guard seems to over hang some too. but that could be the image and light. Hey if I ever find the next guitar of my dreams can I post a couple pictures for you guys to look at? I have been hearing about some pretty good fakes. Always some guys here willing to help out. That pickguard might look a bit odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamGuy Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Too bad there's no pic of inside the control cavity... that would answer some questions. I suppose if I was really interested I'd ask to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg50 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I've never seen anyone fake lacquer like that. For what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I've never seen anyone fake lacquer like that. For what it's worth. Very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgplayers Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The fake I looked at didn't have a switch craft plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If that isn't a refret job then it is definitely fake. My bet is on fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rutherford Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Not being an expert but the laquer cracking looks very genuine, difficult to fake that, is has the exact look of my old 65 SG Special. The pickguard seems to be badly positioned near the toggle switch end, overhanging a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck005 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 That's the first thing that struck me, too: that pickguard doesn't look like it was originally meant for that guitar. It doesn't fit right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallastx Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Run away! D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Have you guys seen what this thing sold for???? Over 2000 bucks!!! That guy is going to be pissed if he finds out it is a copy. And this buyer protection may not fly because the seller has not disclosed anything saying it is authentic or of vintage issue so the buyer may have to eat 2000 bucks. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Ain't that a drag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavestate Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 You can see in the left middle of this image right near the bridge there is a hole that has been filled in, so that pick guard on there is a replacement. It would have had a batwing pick guard on it. I'm sure there are people who can finish lacquer to crack. That fetched some good money to potentially be a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamGuy Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 You can see in the left middle of this image right near the bridge there is a hole that has been filled in, so that pick guard on there is a replacement. It would have had a batwing pick guard on it. I'm sure there are people who can finish lacquer to crack. That fetched some good money to potentially be a fake. Cracking laquer is not hard to do... get yer guitar nice and toasty and hit it with a can of that compressed air used to dust with... there you have it. I reliced a poly finished strat one time using that method... it actually ended up looking rather authentic but there's no controlling the effect... you just kinda cross your fingers and hope for the best. I have a few nitro finished strats that will develop finish cracks if you look at 'em the wrong way. If I were to dig one out from under the bed and then put it near a heat register it'd be all over. In any event, it's too bad that someone's getting ripped off and that the description is vague enough that it's going to be hard to make a case to ebay or paypal to seek out a refund :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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