Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Kind of a long story but here goes I have a friend who is in his seventies now and this guitar belonged to his step father who played in bands in California in the late 1950's. In 1961 he packed up the family a moved to Oklahoma to farm and ranch with little time to play the guitar. After his death my friend bought it from the estate and set it in storage and there its sat till now. As far as he knows this is the same guitar that made the move in 61 but isn't 100% sure. Our questions are is it real what is it and what year is it. There are no numbers on the back of the head or any where else that we can find, looking at pictures online something's look real and some don't. Also my friend said he is trying to get rid of belonging due to his age and distance from his family so he said he would sell it to me for 500$ is this accurate for this guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Have photos and they are not loading off my iPad will get them up ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl51 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I live in Oklahoma City. Do these individuals live anywheres near to here as I could check out the guitar in person and give you a report if you are interested? jim at Tinker AFB Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sorry no we are in Lusk Wyoming, still having a heck of a time getting pictures up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sorry no we are in Lusk Wyoming, still having a heck of a time getting pictures up. get an account on photo bucket, load em up there. then copy the "IMG" link and past it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 It also says SG Custom on the bell shaped tage on the front face of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 . From the story it should be a 1961 "Les Paul" SG. I've got several concerns. Besides other concerns, there should be a plastic plate between the neck pup and the neck that in most cases says "Les Paul" like below - because in this time period the original Les Paul was replaced with this new "SG" design but was still called a Les Paul. Doesn't look genuine to me. Genuine SG "Les Paul" from the early 60s (1961 would've been the first year of production for this model) - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Looks odd. Any factory gibson should have a serial number on the back of the headstock. The control knobs and vibrato don't look right either. $500 would be a steal for an actual SG from the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale10 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Like I said no numbers to be found, also we are thinking this is pre 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Like I said no numbers to be found, also we are thinking this is pre 1960. Sorry, no. As I commented above - that style/model did not exist before 1961 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_sg A genuine Gibson of that period would have a stamped serial number on the back of the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rutherford Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 No chamfer on the top edge, wonky pickguard, jack socket in the wrong place, knobs look wrong, looks a bit dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 They didn't call it SG until the sixties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGasser Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The shape of the pick guard on the top, near the horn, looks way too rounded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It is a 1970's pprpobably between 1970 and 1973 SG custom model with the pick up configuration next too the neck base and the style of bigsby on it and the pick guard. Cool score if you ask me. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It is a 1970's pprpobably between 1970 and 1973 SG custom ... I doubt it, the bass side body bevel is all wrong. 1971 Custom - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I see now about the body.....Also looks like a rosewood fretboard too..Shouldn't that be ebony??? Also is the neck bolted on on the back of the guitar??? DOes not look like a gibson case either. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Also, the bridge is not set at an angle, might be really hard to intonate it. And, if the neck is bolted on, it can't be a Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 None of the details look like any Gibson from any period I can recall. But there are a LOT of details I can see that aren't Gibson, or from the Gibson factory. This one, I'm sorry to say, is not a Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon S. Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 That doesn't look to be a real Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Not trying to be harsh, here...but, it's not a real "Gibson," at all. It's really not even a good/great "copy!" The body contours are all wrong, the outside body silhouette is too far "off," and the knob positions, as well as the knobs themselves are incorrect, also. Then, there's that "pickguard!" Most likely, and early Asian copy, before they became the much better "copies" that they can be, today. But, certainly, not a real "Gibson!" Sorry.... :( CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Finally Interesting, as I found the same guitar, or...it's Twin (right down to the broken vibrato), on a website in Manila, Phillipines. http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2466187/GIBSON+SG+CUSTOM+VINTAGE+ELECTRIC+GUITAR Something's amiss, here! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The headstock seems kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner 13 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Interesting, as I found the same guitar, or...it's Twin (right down to the broken vibrato), on a website in Manila, Phillipines. http://www.sulit.com...ELECTRIC+GUITAR Something's amiss, here! CB def, it's doppelganger... there was no spacer under the output jack and a couple other minor differences. Obviously NOT Gibsons. I am thinking counterfeiters trolling the forums for info? Or just over analyzing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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