mking Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I have a Calton case I purchased a couple of years ago for my Martin HD-28. Anyone know of any reason why that case would not work for my J-45 TV? Thanks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 2 questions: 1) umm... does it fit in the Calton case? (snug enough around the sloped shoulders of the TV, no movement, side to side, of the headstock, don't have to apply pressure to close latches?) 2) whatcha doing with that TV case ; ) ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 It does in fact fit in the Calton case. There is a slight bit of room around the shoulders because the D-28 as you know does not have slopled shoulders. The J-45 really doesn't move at all in the case. As far as ease of closing there was the latch at the lower bout and the waist that did not match up exactly. Very light pressure to make them line up, nothing I haven't experience in other guitar cases. I used it on a recent trip to Colorado and back (I live in Virginia) and now there is really no issues with closing the case. I guess the main reason I asked was to see if anyone had any opinions regarding where the support was for the guitar in the case (as opposed to the D-28). As far as the brown case with the pink interior, it is in mint condition and will stay that way, with me, but thanks for asking. :-) Thanks for the reply also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 If the lower bout of the J-45 fits snugly, I would think it would be OK. The slope J's are very slightly larger than the Martin D across the lower bout, I think. The thing is, you usually use a case like that as a shipping/airline case, and I would want a near-perfect fit for that application. What you really want is for the support pad under the upper bout to carry some of the weight, with no gap between the back of the guitar and the pad in this area. I'm not quite sure how the depths of the two guitars compare. I know they are pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 The heel depth of the D-28 is 3 30/32, for the J-45 it is 3 27/32 The end block depth on the D-28 is 4 29/32, for the J-45 it is 4 27/32 You are correct on the lower bout. The D-28 is 15 inches where the J-45 is 16 3/32 The body length on the D-28 is 20 inches where the J-45 is 20 3/16 I do need to see if there is any room under the guitar regarding the pad for the upper bout. These two bodies are really just a couple of 32nds different in most areas except the lower bout so I think that part is fine. The pad support is an important aspect. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Generally speaking, I think the back of the guitar is best supported by the case at the butt end and as close to the neck as practical. The middle part of the back can probably "float" without harm. Ideally, in a conventional hard case, the guitar should contact the neck rests and these two areas of the back, and the padding on the top between the rests should show the string imprint. On my best-fitting cases, there is also a light imprint of the bridgepins in the top padding as well, but every case/guitar combination seems to be a little different in the regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yeah, in most all my cases (8 of them) I have the same impressions of the strings and on sime the bridge pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Lawdy, just put the freakin' Gibson in the case and see if it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Lawdy, just put the freakin' Gibson in the case and see if it fits. That's WAY too simple for us on this forum...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 That's WAY too simple for us on this forum...... Sorry, I lost my head there for a moment. Hey, did you see the Gibson red line case that is up on eBay? If I had that kinda of scratch laying about I would love to snag that sucker for my '42 J-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 What is a Gibson red line case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Lawdy, just put the freakin' Gibson in the case and see if it fits. Buzzkill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 That's WAY too simple for us on this forum...... Ha Ha We need measurements, pics, descriptions, advice and affirmation before we do anything like put the guitar in the case. A short story for ya: When I moved in to this shaky house I actually paid someone to build about 15 years ago, being a total pair of greenhorns in the housing and gardening departments, we were alarmed when we arrived to move in on 'Handover Day' to find the drive didn't go right to the road. We then learned from the Builder that we had to apply to the local council to get a permit for the extra few feet of cement to join to the road. Really? And hire a contractor to do it after? Really? So I park on the road while I just paid for a garage to be built? Really? So weeks later we have the Golden Permit and I had to leave the boss to supervise Ray and Derek with the consultation process that involved these two digging the hole and making some marks, then before pouring cement, a council officer had to come and approve the hole! Really? So eventually all cement was laid and approved and I received a set of garbled instructions via Ray to my Better Half to not drive on the cement for 3 or 4 days, but they had put hardener in the cement mix to hurry the drying along a bit for me. Really? A whole list of confusing 'don'ts' were told to me by my Better Half, and by the weekend I thought that I needed to wash my filthy car, but unsure if this would wash away or crack the cement, I asked the Boss and she said she didn't know and that it would be best if I rang Ray. I got on the phone to Ray and asked him if I could wash my car yet on the new driveway he made for me - to be replied: "You can do any effen thing you like on it, Mate!" BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 What is a Gibson red line case? Cases made by Geib used by Gibson from around 1933 to 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Cases made by Geib used by Gibson from around 1933 to 1943. I've seen one with an original owner (or grandson thereof) 1947 L-7, so they may have used them later as well. The thin red line around the side of the lid of the case is a give-away. I examined that case more carefully than I looked at the guitar, but ended up buying neither, as the price was too high for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Guy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have a Calton case I purchased a couple of years ago for my Martin HD-28. Anyone know of any reason why that case would not work for my J-45 TV? Thanks much. I have a standard dread-sized Calton case which has safely transported my Martin HD28 & Gibson slopes (J45 & SJ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have been looking at the Redline case on Ebay. I would love a proper slope shoulder case like that for my 1942 J-45. The Ebay case is an archtop case and the fit is not perfect. That would be ok though since j-45s originally often came in archtop cases. However, with the Ebay case you can see that the bridge and string impression on the inside of the lid does not match the bridge of the guitar. That's a dealbreaker for me. Why have an original looking case that does not fit and has evidence of being used for 70+ years for another type of guitar. Well maybe its's just me... :-) Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have been looking at the Redline case on Ebay. I would love a proper slope shoulder case like that for my 1942 J-45. The Ebay case is an archtop case and the fit is not perfect. That would be ok though since j-45s originally often came in archtop cases. However, with the Ebay case you can see that the bridge and string impression on the inside of the lid does not match the bridge of the guitar. That's a dealbreaker for me. Why have an original looking case that does not fit and has evidence of being used for 70+ years for another type of guitar. Well maybe its's just me... :-) Lars There is always the option of commissioning Cedar Creek (TKL custom) to build you a repro case like the ones used for the Legends. I'm a bit of a case geek, and I have found that a lot of high-quality new repro-style cases both fit better and protect better than their vintage counterparts. And they frequently cost less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yes Nick, I have been very tempted by the reproduction Redline Legend case. About a year ago Fuller's and Cedar Creek quoted me about $650 for one. With shipping to Sweden and customs fees and taxes it becomes too expensive for me. My guitars rarely leave the house, so a vintage style case for the old J-45 would be more for "completing the package", if you know what I mean, than actual protection. If you have any leads on a vintage case or a used Redline reproduction, please let me know. It would be greatly appreciated. I could also possibly trade one of my current cases (standard, custom shop, and TV) for the right one. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yes Nick, I have been very tempted by the reproduction Redline Legend case. About a year ago Fuller's and Cedar Creek quoted me about $650 for one. With shipping to Sweden and customs fees and taxes it becomes too expensive for me. My guitars rarely leave the house, so a vintage style case for the old J-45 would be more for "completing the package", if you know what I mean, than actual protection. If you have any leads on a vintage case or a used Redline reproduction, please let me know. It would be greatly appreciated. I could also possibly trade one of my current cases (standard, custom shop, and TV) for the right one. Lars Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks Nick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think it was Juan Carlos who had passed along this nice "build your case" feature at Cedar Creek last year: http://www.cedarcreekcases.com/build.php Figure on $468 plus shipping. Funny thing is, for that kind of $, the case latch hardware is comparable to a much less expensive case. I would be willing to pay extra for hardware that didn't look like it was off of a $69 guitar case. Ps: See? I knew we could wring this out to two pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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