EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So I advertised the Songwriter on several sites including a trusted site called expats.cz which is the most popular portal for expats and international community living in CZ. I received PM from a guy called Carlos Andre, stating he wants to buy the SWD and want my paypal address so he can transfer the funds. I asked him where the guitar would be delivered and he gave me an address in Nigeria, which immediately set off the warning bells ringing. He gave me the following address: Name: Lanre Adeyemi Address: N0 42 Ake Road, City: Abeokuta State: Ogun State Country: Nigeria Zip-Code: 234039 So, the question I have is this a possible scam ? Although he is the one that will be sending money to my paypal account, hence I imagine it should be fine, usually these scams work the other way round where you have to send them the money. Or can these cheeky lads make it appear in Paypal account that the money has arrived, but in reality it hasnt. Should I be paranoid here .... I was thinking that I would ask him for a direct debit to my account, but that means i will be revealing my banking details. Your thoughts lads ? Much appreciated. EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I would absolutely run away, and forgo the chance that he is legitimate. (You asked if this might be a possible scam- I would say there is well over a 50-50 chance it is). Give him your bank account details? No. I'd sooner give Lindsay Lohan access to my medicine cabinet. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 OK, I think I answered my own question by doing a google search and it seems its a 100% scam. https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Tips-from-Members/SCAMS-Don-t-Ship-to-Nigeria/td-p/492296 cheeky little buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 100% a scam.. Don't do it, if you can't sell in person there, use eBay as you have a certain amoubt of seller protection. paypal is useless for seller protection outside of ebay, or actual stores/services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I already experienced it at least 3 times with the Italian site www.mercatinomusicale.com . Different names, similar text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 I already experienced it at least 3 times with the Italian site www.mercatinomusicale.com . Different names, similar text. So Italians get up to these tricks also, good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Yeah.. love it or hate it..FleaBay is unfortunately sometimes the only way to sell .. paypal offer no protection unless shipped to a verified paypal address in ireland we have a site called adverts.ie..which is very good for music stuff..( cheers BBG for that heads up ) wonder if there is something similar for Europe...Gumtree maybe I hate having to pay the 10% fee's on Ebay... but it will sell there no doubt and yes..obvious scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Well, you know, Italians can be very tricky :) . However I have always been contacted via UK email addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 My main vehicle is a respected musical instrument buy / trade online site here in CZ. I already had a couple serious enquiries but at the time my lead guitarist was thinking of buying the SWD so i passed on it. Theres not rush, Im sure ill sell it through that site sooner or later. Good to know about the scams though. There must be some fools out there as these lads do a pretty crappy job with their approach. First he has an email called Carlo something, then he has a different name, then he offers to pay an extra 150 euro for freight, doesnt need any extra pics ..... basically screams out Im a cheeky scammer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So, the question I have is this a possible scam ? Although he is the one that will be sending money to my paypal account, hence I imagine it should be fine, usually these scams work the other way round where you have to send them the money. Or can these cheeky lads make it appear in Paypal account that the money has arrived, but in reality it hasnt. In one way or another you'll never receive any real money and you'll likely be sending him/her money back from your real money from out of his bounced funds and be out. Plus, he'll somehoe along the chain may get your deposit account info and you'll end up being out even more. In other words if you initally reply by not seeing its a scam, you'll be further scammed until you won't know what hit you until you realize it. I'm sure one of the internet sights explains how the con works although there are a number of variations on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 OK, I think I answered my own question by doing a google search and it seems its a 100% scam. https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Tips-from-Members/SCAMS-Don-t-Ship-to-Nigeria/td-p/492296 cheeky little buggers. Glad to see you avoided a potential nightmare. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towzend Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hey buddy... The only thing he wants from you to pay money into your Paypal account is your email address.. Thats all !! Other than that, give him NOTHING !! Or offer him a ride in a police car !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 I was actually thinking of playing with him a little bit and keeping him hangin on wiht hope .... only to dash it at the end. Was thinking about asking him about his favourite chords, nut widths and his favourite Gibson period .... would love to hear the reponse ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I was actually thinking of playing with him a little bit and keeping him hangin on wiht hope .... only to dash it at the end. Was thinking about asking him about his favourite chords, nut widths and his favourite Gibson period .... would love to hear the reponse ... Why not email him saying you agree and as an act of good faith you're sending him your pet spider, attaching a jpeg of a hand-drawn spider to the mail. Then write back saying you've gone cold on the deal and would like your spider returned. Then just keep mailing ridiculous mails about the spider being a point of principal... a ) they might re-send the jpeg (this has worked before) and you get a laugh by saying it's missing a leg etc.... b ) annoy the bugger a bit. google that story, david thorpe it was, absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 et voila... http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why not email him saying you agree and as an act of good faith you're sending him your pet spider, attaching a jpeg of a hand-drawn spider to the mail. Then write back saying you've gone cold on the deal and would like your spider returned. Then just keep mailing ridiculous mails about the spider being a point of principal... a ) they might re-send the jpeg (this has worked before) and you get a laugh by saying it's missing a leg etc.... b ) annoy the bugger a bit. google that story, david thorpe it was, absolutely hilarious. I just read it, good one, but I liked his exchange with the manager of the fintess centre even better. I was wondering if i should ask my Nigerian friends if they also throw in mail order brides as part of the deal ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyReb Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I was actually thinking of playing with him a little bit and keeping him hangin on wiht hope .... only to dash it at the end. Was thinking about asking him about his favourite chords, nut widths and his favourite Gibson period .... would love to hear the reponse ... This can be a good time. I love to string them along for awhile. I can just imagine their faces at the other end all happy because they found someone stupid enough to fall for it. The ones who claim they will send a truck to pickup the item are especially fun. I tell them in the end that all transactions and delivery trucks will be supervised by 5 drunk rednecks with shotguns and ask if they are ok with that. I've never gotten a reply back :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfbird Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Long time ago my girlfriend received an email from someone interested in her artwork (not uncommon, she's a respected artist) who was supposedly in Maida Vale, UK. They sent her a Wells Fargo money order and, of course, wanted "cash back" because...???... doesn't everyone go to Wells Fargo and get a money order for WAY too much money in hopes that a stranger would send them money back? Anyhow, we knew it was a scam, but we were curious, so we contacted Wells Fargo and asked what the deal was and they came back immediately and said FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. The numbers used weren't any kind of numbers WF uses... you'd think someone going through all this trouble of making up a replica of a WF m.o. would get the number part right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Bill Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You did the right thing.... I had some crook trying to give me WAAAY more money than I was asking for a 35MM camera I was selling on Craig's List. He only needed my Pay Pal # to deposit it. Yea right!! He tried again when I was selling my Sierra pedal steel. Living proof that not all horse's a**es are on horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Incredible, isn't it? I have fleeced a couple of times - once was when I advertised some car parts and a couple of shifties turned up to inspect and next morning the parts had been nicked.....and another few times by a real life guitar shop! So just because they have a bricks and mortar shop and all looks proper, well...... It's life, I suppose. Some people work really hard at making a full time job of fleecing people. BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J200_2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Please forget it. This comes from 23 years in the American foreign service. Even if everything is on the up and up, the guitar would NEVER make it through customs to the buyer. Indeed, any buyer would perfectly well know this. Certain proof that the offer is merely a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Euro...surely you won't have a problem selling that guitar in CZ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I had one last week via Craigs List. I was selling a '40's Martin Uke for $1000. Got a text from California stating he wanted to buy it and would pay shipping. I checked with PayPal and you can send them an invoice so you do not need to give out any personal information. Once I asked him for his email, phone number and home address the dance started. He wanted to deposit $1875 into my account (again wanted my account info) and I was to pay a moving company $875 for some other stuff he was moving. I cut it off at that point. I did sell the uke face to face this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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