magnaphonic Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 hey everyone, i need help dating this 70's SG. any help would be really appreciated. thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 There were some Gibsons in the 70s that had the model and serial number on an oval sticker. I always assumed they were applied before the clearcoat was applied... but is it possible they were applied after? Is there any hint, shadow, etc of a small oval label right where the serial number should be? You could date it by the pots I suppose. Do you see any numbers stamped onto the pots? Beginning in 137 or 304 maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Where is the serial number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnaphonic Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Where is the serial number? that's my issue. there is no serial number. i was told that it was common in the 70's.....so, welcome to my dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 1363227351[/url]' post='1344951']that's my issue. there is no serial number. i was told that it was common in the 70's.....so, welcome to my dilemma. That does not sound right. I've never heard that before. I'm sure some of the other members on the forum will weigh in on this subject. I'm going to go out on a limb here. Your guitar is either a copy or had a repair that destroyed the serial number. I believe all gibson solid bodies have serial numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnaphonic Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 That does not sound right. I've never heard that before. I'm sure some of the other members on the forum will weigh in on this subject. I'm going to go out on a limb here. Your guitar is either a copy or had a repair that destroyed the serial number. I believe all gibson solid bodies have serial numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnaphonic Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 I've written Gibson and they confirmed this odd practice of not wood stamping serial numbers during their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 . Yes, in the 70s they used decals some years. Looks genuine to me. The block markers might be mid 70s. Can you read pot codes? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 1363249503[/url]' post='1345046']. Yes, in the 70s they used decals some years. Looks genuine to me. The block markers might be mid 70s. Can you read pot codes? . Definitely, the fretboard blocks and the neck volute make one think this is definitely a genuine 70's Gibson. The only things that look funny are the woodgrain on the back of the headstock and the placement of the control knobs. I'm thinking that possibly some work was done on the guitar and the serial number was misplaced or destroyed or something like that. So as BigKahune mentioned, the best place to look for dates would be on the pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 By the way, what does it say on the back of the tuners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnaphonic Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 they say "Gibson Deluxe" i believe. By the way, what does it say on the back of the tuners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Were you able to get the codes off the pots? They are still your best bet for dating this piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallastx Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Definitely, the fretboard blocks and the neck volute make one think this is definitely a genuine 70's Gibson. The only things that look funny are the woodgrain on the back of the headstock and the placement of the control knobs. I'm thinking that possibly some work was done on the guitar and the serial number was misplaced or destroyed or something like that. So as BigKahune mentioned, the best place to look for dates would be on the pots. Yes the neck volute is Gibson.. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rutherford Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Looks gen all right, the cavity, pots and wiring look typical Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrocker51 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 As far as I know ONLY in 1972 did Gibson stamp their name on pickup covers. I would look to the pot codes (if visible and not covered w solder) to date the guitar. It may even be worth it to de-solder a pot or two and confirm the pot codes for dating purposes. This may slightly devalue the guitar, but those model SG's are not super valuable, and KNOWING it's a 1972 from week "XX" helps add value to the guitar... good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*sgstandard* Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Early 70s sounds about right. The peghead style looks similar to the Gibson L6-S, which was made between 1973-1979. 1969 SGs had a neck volute, but I don't know how long that lasted. Considering the fact that it has been severely altered, with the extra hole, pinpointing the exact year, IMO, is less important. That extra hole intrigues me, and I'm wondering if it previously had a "rotary" selector - something Gibson sometimes used. I think there's a good chance the bridge was changed. It probably had the larger, rectangular bridge Gibson used in the 70s. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Early 70s sounds about right. The peghead style looks similar to the Gibson L6-S, which was made between 1973-1979. 1969 SGs had a neck volute, but I don't know how long that lasted. Considering the fact that it has been severely altered, with the extra hole, pinpointing the exact year, IMO, is less important. That extra hole intrigues me, and I'm wondering if it previously had a "rotary" selector - something Gibson sometimes used. I think there's a good chance the bridge was changed. It probably had the larger, rectangular bridge Gibson used in the 70s. Best of luck! Are you sure about the volute on a 69? I had one several years ago and it did not have a volute. You may be right about the rotary selector. Yes I agree the bridge may not be original. I could not tell if there was any resoldering. Just a thought about the hole. A dimarzio dual sound humbucker came with a mini toggle. Could have been one in that guitar. The guitar dont appear to be stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Im almost sure the tuners are not stock. Here is a pic of a 72 http://www.guitarexperience.co.uk/gibson-1972-sg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 As far as I know ONLY in 1972 did Gibson stamp their name on pickup covers. I would look to the pot codes (if visible and not covered w solder) to date the guitar. It may even be worth it to de-solder a pot or two and confirm the pot codes for dating purposes. This may slightly devalue the guitar, but those model SG's are not super valuable, and KNOWING it's a 1972 from week "XX" helps add value to the guitar... good luck I was going to say the same thing....I believe it was 72 for the humbucker covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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