Fearomoon
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Hello Forum,
I have a '22 LP Classic with PCB. It's not clear to me whether everything works as it should. In particular the out-of-phase circuit. When I set the switch to neck pu and pull the tone pot for out-of-phase I don't hear any difference. The same thing happens when I select the bridge pu and pull the out-of-phase pot. I only hear the out-of-phase sound of the pickups when I have the selector switch in the middle position with both pu activated. Does the out-of-phase only work if both pu are selected or is my PCB board defective? The true bypass works perfectly and the volume pots for the P90 sound also work individually on the two PUs
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On 10/7/2023 at 2:07 PM, kidblast said:
I've honestly never notice a bit of difference between the string touching the back of the bridge and not touching.
I bought it to the whole thing, and tried it out, spent the time trying to A/B it all, and eventually decided I would just set it back to where the bar usually is set about 1/4 " of the body
1/4" measured from body to....where? Bottom of TP? this ring on the post above the thread?
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On 6/29/2020 at 8:36 PM, Whizzinby said:
Does Gibson publish a baseline speck for bridge and tail height? Would be great to just restring this and set everything up to their spec out of the shop, then go from there.
Did you find anything out here? I would also be very interested in the Factory specs for exactly this SG with the Batwing....
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none of the strings cause buzzing when played open... the other strings except the high e string are also within gibson specifications, only the high e string is a bit low, so purely in terms of dimensions.... if I press down the 3rd fret, it lies completely on the 1st fret. In theory it shouldn't be like that, but if I play it empty, it swings freely, even if I hit it hard... whether it's just cosmetic that bothers me or whether I should have it corrected... I have no idea. It works and it doesn't buzz, but with the string action on the 12th fret I can't get to exactly 3/64 or lower without buzzing.
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I just needed to hear that to calm my inner Monk 😂
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I just picked up a brand new 22/23 Classic and my string action at first fret is lower than Gibson specs, I measured 0.010" on high e. Can I leave it like that or do I have to change something?
String Action at 12th Fret is something between 3/64 and 4/64 on high e. I have no choking out or buzzing....
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I optimized the whole thing a bit by adjusting the string-to-string output. I lowered the pole pieces on the loud strings and turned them up on the quiet strings. the g string needs to be lowest because it's the loudest. The whole thing now looks like the picture and sounds even better 😁😁
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Still lovin' it...but...on the classic you have the coil split options with the push/pull potentiometers... you have to forget that, it makes no difference whether they are pulled or not with this setting... but who uses that anyway?
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holy ****... that's exactly the tone i was looking for... thank you for that! I've always tried between 1.6 and 2.4... I would never have gone that low. I would not have come up with the idea. I would have probably swapped the pickups. now it just sounds awesome. 🤩
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I don't think that a bit of weight relief makes a difference... think rather the ultra modern weight relief of a studio would be more noticeable...
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luckily I haven't rearranged the pole pieces yet...this time I'll remember how they were...silly not to write it down 💩
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19 minutes ago, Pinch said:
You might need to raise the high E polepiece a little on one or both pickups. Just a touch.
What do you mean by that? Quarter Turn? Half Turn? Full turn?
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Exactly what I said, they react massively to the smallest changes and I'm sure or wished that they just had to be good... boomy was exactly my problem... I screwed up and down and it all sounded crap but the idea was like that I didn't get to screw down that far...
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3 minutes ago, Pinch said:
Fear not. Here's my story, and here's what you do.
My LP came with 60s Burstbuckers, and I hated them the way they came set up. You probably know how to measure pickup height, but if you don't, you press down on the last fret, then measure the distance between the polepiece and the string.
First off, measure the original height if you haven't already, and write it down.
Then set as follows: on the bass side: 4 mm. Yes, really. On the treble side: 3 mm. Same on both pickups.
You might need to raise the high E polepiece a little on one or both pickups. Just a touch.
The distance might sound like it's too much, but... No. That's the sweet spot for me. No prizes for guessing it took a loooong time to find it.
Unfortunately I missed to measure the original height and no one can tell me how original height was….did you write it down?!
I’ll try that… local Lucier told me today that the 60s had to be very far away from the strings…
that agrees with your statement.
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I said I can't rely on my hearing for how a Gibson is supposed to sound. Of course I can say what totally sounds like crap 😂 And now I've had so much screwing back and forth behind me that I can no longer say whether it's better or not. 🤯 I found a post in the My Les Paul forum where the thread creator posted audio files for the pickups, how it shouldn't sound, how it sounds with the standard setting and then how it sounds in his personal top setting. Unfortunately, the audio files no longer work because the post is quite old.
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Things I tried so far:
Jim DeColas setting:
Bridge e 1,2mm E 1,6mm
Neck e 1,6mm E 2,0mm
Conslusion: To general and sounded way to bassy and muddy
Local Luthiers Setting:
Bridge & Neck both down to Pickup surround, Neck slightly deeper. (He said modern Pickups don't need to be under the Strings)
Conslusion: Nothing I imagine the sound of a Gibson to be like. Sounds quiet and soulless.
Settings from second Post:
Bridge e 1,6mm E 2,4mm
Neck e 1,6mm E 2,4mm
Conclusion: The highs are much too high (almost screaming), hardly any mids, bass is sometimes too boomy and muddy
What I have read in the few posts on the net regarding the Burstbucker 61 and also had to realize for myself is that these pickups react much more sensitively to changes than other Gibson pickups (according to the reports), a quarter turn changes the response and the tone very much .
Btw. I'm using D'Addario NYXL 10-46 Strings and Marshall DSL & Boss Katana MK2 and I play Blues/Rock/Metal if that plays any role for the setup
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9 minutes ago, SteveFord said:
I know the video but I am explicitly concerned with a setting for the Burstbucker 61 in my Classic and not with a general setting or mediocrity. in the video it's all rather general what applies to all Gibson pickups but as was said above all pickups are different. I'm just looking for info from someone who has found a great setting with a sweet spot and can tell me what their dimensions are and I can test it to see if it suits me because I have no experience with Gibson
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This is so confusing… both Pickups on high e side 1.6 and low e to 2.4mm… right? And then start tweaking?
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Hi @all
I bought a new Gibson Les Paul Classic with Burstbucker 61 pickups. This is my first Les Paul and I haven't played guitar in 20 years and just started playing again. My problem is the height of the pickups. Since I haven't had a Les Paul yet, I can't rely on my hearing as to what the Burstbucker 61's sweet spot is. Can you tell me what the optimal height of the pickups would be in mm? Unfortunately, I can't get along with the inches. I don't want to start a big discussion, just usable dimensions would be nice because the factory dimensions sounded horrible, at least that's what I can judge 😉
Les Paul Classic PCB out-of-phase not working correctly?
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Thank you for your help, this saved my day 🙂