Texsunburst59
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45 minutes ago, Dub-T-123 said:
Do these have the Moog electronics? Cool looking guitars
Yeah, mine has the move electronics. I don’t really care for it at all but it is in there.
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Very nice looking guitar you've got there Bernie.
I have what I'm pretty sure is a (Test sample, Pre-order) Jimmy Wallace guitar build in 1980.
I ran into Jimmy at a Vintage guitar show in Austin Texas in 2005, and I had the guitar with me at the time.
He was almost 100% sure that my guitar was 1 of 2 or 3 Test sample he had Gibson build for him that were built to model his own personal original '58 Lp Standard.
He said the that he wanted all his guitars in his very 1st order to be spec'd to his '58, and he wanted them to all have quilted tops.
The first test sample guitars were to make sure Gibson got the specs and the quilt tops done to his satisfaction.
Here's some pics of my '80 Gibson "Jimmy Wallace" '58 Quilted LP Standard. ( P.S. - I bought this guitar in 1984 for $500 )
Here's the ragged "Relic'd" case that took the brunt of the damage all those years I gigged it.
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This guitar is 44 yrs. old and was made the year I graduated high school.
It sure looks like it's been a case queen for almost all of it's 44 yrs. it's been around.
The nasty Moog circuitry even still operates properly.
Haven't had a chance to really play it,but will do so once it's been set up and new strings are installed.
I've read enough about these guitars to keep my expectations in check.
Took some quick pics at the park across the street before the sun went down.
'77 Gibson Walnut RD Custom:
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17 hours ago, jdgm said:
Looks very nice. I also think it is likely that the pickups may have been changed, because - if they changed the tailpiece....(but why did they remove the adjuster screws? Duh!)......
You won't find out until you have the guitar and can remove the pickups to examine them. What's with the neck pickup though? Pole adjustment screws are missing.
Good luck with it - keep us posted.
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I have no Idea why the previous owner removed the fine tune adjustment screw on the Tailpiece.
As to why the previous owner removed the Balance string to string adjustment screws is a mystery.
One possible theory, is he might have wanted the pickup to sound warmer/fatter/ jazzier?
I've heard removing the screws can accomplish this, but then this is all speculation.
I'll post about the guitar once I get it and inspect the pickups.
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This past Sunday I found and put on layaway a '89/'90 Epiphone Sheraton II guitar
The guitar is not 100% stock and has 2 hardware upgrades.
1) vintage Gold Schaller M6 mini tuners
2) vintage Gold Schaller Model 492 Quick Change Stop Tail Bar w/ fine tuning adjustable screws(removed by previous owner)
Here's where Gibson pickup question comes in.
I think besides upgrading the above pieces of hardware, the previous owner upgraded the pickups as well.
On almost all pictures I've ever seen of these older '89 to early 90's Epi Sheraton guitars, the gold plating on these pickups is almost always rubbed off the tops of both neck and bridge pickups.
I've also noticed that almost all the import humbuckers installed in the Korean, Chinese,etc........ imports guitars, all have phillips head screws for the pickups height adjustment.
I'm thinking that the pickups in this guitar might be vintage Gibson humbuckers for thes reasons
1) the pickup height adjustment screws on both the bridge and neck are slotted head screws common to older late 60's and early 70's Gibson Patten Sticker T-Tops.
2) the gold plating wear on these 2 pickups is consistent with the better quality used on Gibson pickups
3) I've never ever seen slotted head screws pickup height adjustment screws used on any import pickups
Here's some pics of my Sheraton with pickups in question.
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My Gibson 80's guitars with original pickups all use the phillips head screw for the pickup height adjustment as well.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
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3 hours ago, jmendoza said:
That guitar looks similar to my 1989 Sherri but has some differences:
The stop tailpiece looks to be after-market (not Gibson style) the Epiphone logo on the head stock is slightly tilted to the left, and the notch in the "open book" at the top of the peghead is wider than mine. Color is the same as mine and since the gold plating is in good condition, it must have very little play time, as it wears away quickly.
I do not know where mine was made as it has no letters in the serial number, but does date to 1989, which was when it was purchased.
I was given a set of Gibson PAF pick-ups from a 335, with wiring harness and installed them in the Sheraton, which made a huge improvement in its sound. .
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Jay , the Stop Bar Tailpiece and the Tuners are after mark upgrades.
The tuners are Schaller M6 mini tuners that run about $185 if you were to buy a new set.
The Stop Bar Tailpiece is a Schaller Modle 492 Quick Change Tailpiece with the fine tuners(the screw were removed and weren't there when I put it on layaway
After studying the pics, I'm pretty sure the the pickups are USA Gibson pickups and not the original pickups, and there are 2 reasons I think so.
1) the pickup height adjustment screws are slotted head screws (used on older vintage Gibson pickups) and not the phillips head screws the are used with all Korean, Chinese, etc..... import pickups.
2) as you say, the guitar doesn't look used because all the gold plating hasn't been rubbed off like almost all Korean humbuckers in this era Sheraton II guitars.
I'm pretty sure the gold plating hasn't rubbed off because they're real Gibson humbuckers with quality Gold plating.
I won't know until next week when I go take the guitar out, and get it hope to inspect the underside of the pickups.
It'd be amazing if these were late "60 or early 70's Patent Sticker T-Tops, like the one pictured below
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1 hour ago, Matt4356 said:
Nice, i recently picked up a 93 blonde. They are nice, I currently have a 93, an 04 and a 2012. The 93 is by far the better one, that's not to say the others are bad either.
Thanks Matt.
I would have loved had it been a Blonde, but that fact that is was one of the early Samcik Sheraton's was fine with me.
I can't wait to get it out and see how it sounds and plays after it's been given some TLC and set up properly .
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Found this Sheraton II at a pawnshop this past Friday.
I wasn't sure what it was, but had an idea it was an older Sheraton,and took some pics to figure out what it was.
With the help from an "Epi Guru" , who say my pics, established it was either a VERY late '89, or '90,'91 Sheraton.
I went back Sunday to the pawnshop to go and negotiate a price for the guitar.
The store was asking $500 for it,but I showed them on my phone that there was a Sheraton in our local GC in WAY better condition for $369.
I told them I'd rather buy this guitar,but they'd really have to be way lower than the GC Sheraton.
They asked me to make an offer on the guitar, and I said $200 based on the changed out tuners, Stop Bar Tailpiece, and the missing balance string to string adjustment screws on the neck pickup.
The countered my offer with $277 saying that's the best they could do, and I agreed to the price.
I put $30 down and put it on layaway, because I have a guitar on FB Marketplace that I have to sell 1st.
The Schaller tuners are older M6 mini's, and the Schaller Stop Bar is a '90's Model 492 Gold Quick Change Stop Bar Tailpiece with adjustment screws ( the screws were removed from this one)
Both these upgrades are worth about $200+, so it made the guitar an even better deal.
Here's the pics I took at the store while the salesperson was processing the layaway.
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VERY beautiful 1st LP Studio "1st Guitar".
I'm 100% with Sgt. Pepper, as I ONLY buy used guitars to add to my guitar collection.
About 90% of my guitar/bass collection is used ,and I haven't bought a new guitar since '99.
I added my 1st and only LP Studio 2 yrs. ago ,when I scored this in a pawnshops for $286 w/OHSC.
My '05 Gibson Black LP Studio
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That is a FAKE guitar.
There is no MIJ Gibson "Elite" Prototype.
I wouldn't give $100 for that Illegal POS.
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12 hours ago, NighthawkChris said:
Thanks NC.
I can usually post pics on forums, but I'm not sure why I couldn't post these.
Thanks for posting these for me.
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I own several Gibson guitars over the years.
I've played a few 50's and 60's , and some were great and some were meh.
I own several Gibson LP's and a few 33X guitars.
My 2 best Gibson guitars are my '80 "Jimmy Wallace" '58RI "Prototype and my '83 Gibson ES-335 Cherry Dot.
They are 2 of the best guitars of those particular models I've played.
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I didn't realize these guitars were that expensive now.
I have that same EXACT guitar,but mine is a '89 Standard.
I picked up mine at a pawnshops a few years ago for $993 in amazing condition, and it was in original condition with OHSC.
Here's a pic of mine.
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'63 ES-330, '70 ES335, '83 ES-335 Dot:
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I think to find the right LP, you have be connected to guitar shops, pawnshops, and a lot of guitarists in your area.
To me it's all about being connected.
Sometimes having a relationship with the above groups will give you access to some great guitars, and possible deals on purchasing them.
All my LP's were killer deals.
2 of them were because I knew the persons who owned them and got the buddy deals, and the other 2, were because I had connections to pawnshops.
Obviously you have to be able to audition any LP you plan to buy, whether it's early 80's or 90's-00's.
You won't know which era is going to speak to you and sound the best, until you play as many as you can.
Just for reference, here are my LP's and the prices I paid for them.
$500 - '80 Gibson "Jimmy Wallace" '58RI LP Standard (bought in '84)
$993 - '89 Gibson LP Standard:
$1500 - '00 Gibson Classic Premium Plus LP
$762 - '08 Gibson LP Standard Plus
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VERY nice 335.
Congrats on your new beauty!!!
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1 hour ago, merciful-evans said:
Take the plunge man!
Haha!!
My guitars aren't in danger that much.
I think my guitars are a little safer than that, and I don't live on the "Edge" to THAT extent.
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1 hour ago, jdgm said:
Yes they are beautiful.
I'm detecting a sort of theme to the background here and it's making me uneasy......
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You must be talking out the guitars being SO close to the water.
I like to live on the "Edge", you could say. 😉
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1 hour ago, Marky Forrest said:
That is one sweet guitar. Glad you got a fair deal and were able to help out a friend. Very cool, congrats!
The guitar was a fair price and far from a steal, but it was never meant to be.
I gave me what he asked for it because he's a friend and my guitar tech.
I've waited years to find the right Classic for the right price, and I was lucky to be presented with this situation.
This Classic and my '80 "Jimmy Wallace" are by FAR my nicest Gibson LP's I own.
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16 minutes ago, Daxman said:
I do stand corrected, thank you. It was 1990 that they were first introduced. After doing some research, it seems the 90-93 Classics were as nice as a '59' reissues.
Yea Dax.
That was my research as well.
It would have been nice if this was one of the 1st runs, but as good as this guitars looks , plays, and sounds, I can't imagine the early ones being any better.
I'm a camper that's happy.
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2 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
I see a LP Classic on Reverb. Its a 1991. That is the earliest I see.
I think the 1st Classics were introduced in 1990.
I think 2000 was the 1st year when they reintroduced the Classic LP's again.
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2 hours ago, SteveFord said:
Very handsome, I had a Classic years ago and really liked it but then came the Great Recession and off it went.
Thanks Steve.
So far I'm still working a drawing a weekly check, you NEVER know.
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Thanks everyone!!
After a few days of owning this guitar, I can say that I LOVE the neck and the tones I'm getting out of this Classic.
Fortunately the neck wasn't the thinner 60's neck and lean way toward a 50's instead.
I got the action set up perfectly, and the neck is one of the best feeling necks of any guitar in my collection.
I feel blessed to have been able to acquire this amazing guitar.
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1977 Gibson walnut, RD custom
in Gibson USA
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Very cool looking pair you got there.