Overdrive Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi; I have a 2005 Casino natural finish, buyed in a spanish "buying and selling" dealer like a "japan pre-elitist Casino" at the end of 2007. The Serial number is: R05070627 According to "Guitar Dater Project": Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Peerless Plant, Korea July 2005 Production Number: 0627 Peerless Korea Co., Ltd. Peerless Korea Co., Ltd. is a Korean-Japanese joint venture company headquartered in South Korea and has been in the guitar-manufacturing industry since 1970. With the core expertise in guitar manufacturing initiated from Japan, Peerless has provided 2.9 million pieces of guitars in the worldwide market so far. Peerless had once manufactured 30,000 pieces of guitars per month in the past in order to meet the order quantity, however have gradually changed their focus from quantity quality. With this in mind they have cut down their manufacturing capacity to 2,000 pieces per month just to ensure the high quality of our products. Peerless produces guitars via OEM for brands such as Epiphone by Gibson, Alvarez, Hoyer and Gretsch by Fender. Note: While not explicitly stated it is believed that Peerless is part owned by Aria of Japan." Recently, I compared my Casino with a 2008 chinese Casino and talking of general quality, feeling and sound, the mine was much better. Specially, the fretboard feeling when play my Casino was very higher than the chinese Casino. But, can be talk correctly about the 2000's Casino Peerless like ""japan pre-elitist Casino"? Can be correctly compare with the Elitist Casino series? Very thanks for your answers and suggestions . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acousticworship Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Welcome. I have a Peerless-made Casino as well. It's a very nice guitar. I believe it may indeed be better than the current Chinese made ones. But it is still a Korean made standard model and not an Elitist. I think it is misleading for a seller to compare it to a Japanese made Elitist. But if it's anything like mine, it is a good guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyFingers Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I have two guitars made at the Peerless plant...! If you notice your neck pup will have a slight slant to it...(different than other Casino's). The Truss rod is bigger in yours than other Casino's...(it takes a much larger allen wrench to adjust the neck than the other Casino's). The nut is a much harder material than other Casino's. The overall quality is much higher on your guitar than other made Casino's... I had two guitars to compare...an ebony finished Peerless Casino and a natural finished "Un Sung" manufactured Casino...Both Guitars were set up exactly the same, with the same strings and played thru the same amp...there was NO COMPARISON...The peerless ebony Casino blew away the natural Casino! Your guitar is much higher quality than the others and it should be a "keeper"...I'm keeping my eyes open on a sunburst model made at Peerless...! Dizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi; I have a 2005 Casino natural finish' date=' buyed in a spanish "buying and selling" dealer like a "japan pre-elitist Casino" at the end of 2007.The Serial number is: R05070627 According to "Guitar Dater Project": Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the [u']Peerless Plant[/u], Korea July 2005 Production Number: 0627 Peerless Korea Co., Ltd. Peerless Korea Co., Ltd. is a Korean-Japanese joint venture company headquartered in South Korea and has been in the guitar-manufacturing industry since 1970. With the core expertise in guitar manufacturing initiated from Japan, Peerless has provided 2.9 million pieces of guitars in the worldwide market so far. Peerless had once manufactured 30,000 pieces of guitars per month in the past in order to meet the order quantity, however have gradually changed their focus from quantity quality. With this in mind they have cut down their manufacturing capacity to 2,000 pieces per month just to ensure the high quality of our products. Peerless produces guitars via OEM for brands such as Epiphone by Gibson, Alvarez, Hoyer and Gretsch by Fender. Note: While not explicitly stated it is believed that Peerless is part owned by Aria of Japan." Recently, I compared my Casino with a 2008 chinese Casino and talking of general quality, feeling and sound, the mine was much better. Specially, the fretboard feeling when play my Casino was very higher than the chinese Casino. But, can be talk correctly about the 2000's Casino Peerless like ""japan pre-elitist Casino"? Can be correctly compare with the Elitist Casino series? Very thanks for your answers and suggestions . When they refer to "Japanese- Pre-Elitist " Casinos they're talking about guitars made by Terada (in Japan) between 1987 and 1998 (when the actual Elitist line began). Terada also made the Elitist thinlines and thus why they're called "Pre-Elitist". There was also a line of guitars made by Matsumoku from about 1975 until 1987 in Japan and both of these lines are slightly superior to the Korean-made Casinos and absolutely superior to the current Chinese-made Casinos. The Terada-made Epiphones are essentially the same in quality and materials as the Elitists. They did use so-called "USA electronics" in the Elitists but they weren't made by Gibson yet were still quite adequate. The Japanese P-90s were very close to the original P-90s. I own a 1996 Pre-Elitist, Terada-made Casino and I own a 1965 Kalamazoo-made Casino and they sound more alike than different. The Terada P-90s are a little stronger but that could be because the Kalamazoo pickups are almost forty five years old and the magnets have lost some of their power Casinos made by Peerless in Korea (starting about 1994) are pretty good guitars as well. It's important to remember that the Casino isn't a complex guitar in terms of manufacturing so even the Asian copies aren't too far removed from the originals which were made in Kalamazoo, Michigan from 1961 until 1970. I also think that Peerless was one of the better Korea contract factories that Epiphone used and did, as your noted, make guitars for many other brands. Aria, which you mentioned, is a division of Matsumoku who made the first Japanese Epiphones starting in 1971. In fact, the very first Japanese Epiphones were actually previous Aria models they simply changed the headstock and put the Epiphone logo on . Hope that helps. Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Very thanks for all. Really you help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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