delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I am changing my stock 57 pickups for something with more UMPHH!!! i was thinking Gibson p94s but actually dont have a clue! I want a great crisp bluesy sound any ideas anybody?? plus if anyone could give me a short tutorial on changing them myself without mucking it up? any help would be much appreciated Thanks, Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 What kinda amp you using, Derek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 marshall mg series 100watt fairly newish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I am changing my stock 57 pickups for something with more UMPHH!!! i was thinking Gibson p94s but actually dont have a clue! I want a great crisp bluesy sound any ideas anybody??plus if anyone could give me a short tutorial on changing them myself without mucking it up? any help would be much appreciated Thanks' date=' Derek P94s are good !! It will give your sheraton more of a stratocaster type twang... just for the simple reason that the P94s are single coils... I own a Ginbson ES-137 semi hollow with SD Phat Cats.. I changed the magnets in the Phat Cats for A5/A5 neck and A5/A8 bridge... It is very nice for the blues... As far as changing the pickups you can cut the wire at the base of each of the epiphone pickpus... Leave about 2 inches of lead so you can extend the epi pickups later... After doing that you can splice the new pickup wiring onto the old lead (from the epi pickups)... I have done it this way many many times... There is no difference in sound quality between doing it this way and fishing the new pickup lead to the pots... And doing this way is a HELL of lot easier than fishing **** through a semi hollow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 thanks a mil brianmayeux for your input a stratocaster type twang as you say would be great! yeah cool sounds tricky fishing stuff through to the pots! how do i join the wires i presume soldering them but maybe im way off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 thanks a mil brianmayeux for your input a stratocaster type twang as you say would be great!yeah cool sounds tricky fishing stuff through to the pots! how do i join the wires i presume soldering them but maybe im way off? Yes soldering... Epiphone wiring will consist of either : 1) one white, one red, and one bare OR 2) one white and one bare tie off the red it's not needed.... you need to solder the wires and grounds.. the bare wire is the ground on the epi and the lead is the white on the epi... the lead wire is the center wire on the p94 and the ground is the braided metal outside casing... The easiest way to solder them together is to hold the wires side by side and take the epi bare wire and wrap that bare wire around both leads... solder the white to the p94 lead wire, and solder the bare wire ground to the braided outside of the p94... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 thanks again brianmayeux this is good stuff ill look back over this when i purchase the p94s!.... im sure it will be clear when i pull out the old pickups and see the wires, naive as i am i thought it would be just the one metal wire on each pickup!!! thnks again brianmayeux for your help and ill look forward to jamming with these cool new pickups... by the way sounds like you got a real nice sound with your ES-137:) keep on rockin:)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Bear in mind that there are other humbucker-sized P90s available from Seymour Duncan, Kent Armstrong and others. Worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 good point EpiDotHead:) but i think the p94s are what im looking for... could you giv a brief overview of what sort of sound id get from the ones you mentioned i dont want to get too bogged down searching, what pickups do you use on your dot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 good point EpiDotHead:) but i think the p94s are what im looking for...could you giv a brief overview of what sort of sound id get from the ones you mentioned i dont want to get too bogged down searching' date=' what pickups do you use on your dot?[/quote'] I have GFS Mean 90s in my Dot, and they compare quite favorably (IMO) to other P90s, at less than half the price. Bob Norton has them in his LTD and rates them favorably to SD and Gibson P90s that he has in his Casino and ES330, respectively.. The P94s will be the most expensive, if cost is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 yeah half price sounds good:)! but i dont mind paying extra as long as they are quality and sound better (a lot better!) than my stock pickups... why are p94s the most expensive? what pickups did you pull out of your dot before replacing them with your 90s? was it a big difference in sound quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I replaced stock Epiphone humbuckers. In my experience, going from humbuckers to P90s (or vice versa) is a more obviously noticeable difference compared to just going to different humbuckers. I was already a P90 fan because of two P90-loaded Gibsons I had when I was a kid. Another popular pickup combination is a P90 neck coupled with a humbucker bridge pickup. BTW, you won't need different pots or caps with P90s. Edit: I believe the P94s are more expensive because of the Gibson brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 thanks EpiDotHead for your input:) but im still bit confused about what sort of sound difference would there be between a p90 and a p94 pickup, the p94s i think should pretty much sound similar to the p90s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 thanks EpiDotHead for your input:) but im still bit confused about what sort of sound difference would there be between a p90 and a p94 pickup' date=' the p94s i think should pretty much sound similar to the p90s? [/quote']The P94 is a humbucker-sized P90. Bear in mind that a "true" P90 is a Gibson dog-ear or soapbar P90, but there are many versions by many manufacturers of this type of single coil pickup. Edit: if you go to the Seymour Duncan website and listen to the sound samples of their Phat Cat vs some of their humbuckers, it might give you a better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Derek, replacing pickups is a bit of a crapshoot, and you have to be as prepared to be disappointed as delighted. That's one of the reasons GFS pickups are so attractive to Epi owners - a bit less of a money gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 derek... stick with the Gibson P94's I have done a ton of research and swapping of humbucker sized p90's and out of the box, the p94's would be your best bet... The other option would be Bryan Gunsher pure 90s ... they are supposed to be the best... but you have to wait over 2 months for them... I have the phat cats but I had to swap out the magnets to get a hotter sound... please stay away from kent armstrongs and gfs... they will NOT be an improvement.. in fact the gfs are worse than the stock epis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiDotHead Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Gee, I dunno why I was so stupid as to encourage the OP to further explore all the options when the answer is so absolutely, completely, indubitably obvious to all but the most retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodice Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 WARNING!.......................... once u use P-94s, u will never hear any other pickup as good....................... IMO . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delek 99 Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 thanks a lot guys for all your help, i think i have made my final decision and im going to go for the p94s:).... might take a closer look at the brian gunsher pure 90s but more than likely it will be the p94s!!! Whoohoo:)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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