Idk. I think Dave was spot on. What with the "play authentic" debacle (who hired that moron from norms guitars as a spokesperson anyways?) And the poor quality control,im sure there are tons of defective gibsons. My own personal les Paul came with sharp fretends, not intonated, pickups too high, and I had to get a new nut installed to play in tune. The g string wouldn't make it through one song without going out. All for 5300 bucks. Next time I'm buying a music man